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Trump, Jesus and the Evangelicals : Comments

By Mark Christensen, published 22/2/2018

God forbid, Trump is not the subversive figure described by Andrew Sullivan. But he is the next best thing when confused, self-important elites are hopelessly out of touch.

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“the president goes with his gut, what he feels is true. Which has the effect of upending the political order, a system of rule.....”. That's because he is not a dyed in the wool, self-serving professional politician. The political order and system of rule needs changing all over the Western world. The “self-important elites” are certainly out of touch – and out of date. They need to be completely erased, and a fresh batch of decent human beings installed.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 22 February 2018 8:20:14 AM
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ttbn. What gives you the idea that Trump is a decent human being.
Get real.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 22 February 2018 9:13:29 AM
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David,

What makes you think he isn't? We both have the same information about him.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 22 February 2018 10:36:22 AM
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If Trump was a decent human being he would be out there on the side of all the kids who are protesting against the US's ridiculous gun laws. Instead, he is just pussy footing around the edges appeasing the NSA idiots.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 22 February 2018 2:07:56 PM
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Yeah we know Obama did nothing even with majority in Senate. David shows he cares much more about his hatred for Trump than real solutions. At least Trump is cutting back on funding the murderers of unborn babies. Far more decent than you david.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 22 February 2018 2:14:17 PM
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Yeah, David. I posted on the general Forum that although Obama had 60% of the vote in Congress in the first two years of his first term, he did diddly squats about gun control. Now that Trump intends to do something, he should be declared a decent human being, not Obama who did nothing in 8 years of presidentcy, and that's according to your criteria.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 22 February 2018 4:26:28 PM
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This is what passes as "informed" "conservative" opinion!

Jeez, I have read some rubbish on this site before, but this essay easily wins the booby prize for the worst ever.
By comparison even the nonsense that Sells writes seems reasonably intelligent.
Why not check out the references to the book Trumpocracy by the old style conservative David Frum who was George Bush's speech writer.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 22 February 2018 5:05:44 PM
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The nature of the insane clown president's character is completely obvious. Its all on the public record. Everything that he has ever done has demonstrated that he has zero moral or ethical qualities.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 22 February 2018 6:07:38 PM
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This is barely readable as a post. If Mark Christensen really wants to know why evangelicals support Donald Trump, he should look no further than "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

The real irony here is that Donald Trump behaves exactly the opposite of all evangelical preaching, but they support him anyway. It is almost as if the US evangelicals don't have faith in their convictions and are willing to make a pact with the devil in order to get what they want.
Posted by Agronomist, Thursday, 22 February 2018 6:43:50 PM
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Agronomist. 'Twas ever thus. Anything to separate the gullible from their money.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 22 February 2018 11:16:17 PM
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"If Trump was a decent human being he would be out there on the side of all the kids who are protesting against the US's ridiculous gun laws."

Trump campaigned in support of the second amendment.
He was VOTED into office for positions he supported, and you think you can divide him and his supporters so easily?
Second of all the left have been screaming "Not My President" for the last 18mths and now they want him to do something that goes against what he campained on.
He owes them nothing, he ain't their President LOL
Third, there's a strange phenomena taking place at present.
All the kids your speaking of trying to guilt Trump into changing his policy - are all in the same school drama class.
I bet you didn't know that one.

I bet you didn't know other students still support the second amendment - as well as challenge the official story about a single shooter, but you're too busy lapping up the stuff the bought and paid for media are trying to sell you.

Conservatives have 200 million guns and trillions of rounds of ammo.
If they were the bad people you claim them to be with guns, I can assure you you'd all know about it.
Have you seen the T-shirts "Come and take it" and "Don't tread on me"?
Any attempt to take the guns will result in 1776.
You people do not understand America.
You're on drugs if you think you can take the firearms.

Even worse is that you all have an opinion but aren't well informed.
It's just adds more crud to the arguments.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 23 February 2018 8:14:49 AM
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What none of you numbskulls has mentioned - is the prescription drugs.

None ask about the use SSRI's - Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitors:
- Responsible for most of the other mass shootings as well but the media won't tell you that.

Then you forget to add that with the FBI like to use people as Patsy's to push their own agendas.
Another drill on the day in question - has false flag all over it.

Also if the FBI was negligent then it was because they have been focussed on this Russia bs, so the left should blame themselves if anyone.

I don't see anyone suggesting a plan to intervene and stop the carnage during school shootings...

Its pretty simple - you have a code-locked room with a locked safe with guns, adjoined a school security office - and no-one at the school has those codes - only given out during an emergency by a head office after confirming of an active shooter. School security will be faster on the scene and have better knowledge of school layout anyway.

So there you have the equivalent of 'minutemen and nuclear codes' to deal with an active shooter, the second the need requires.

Also stop plastering their names and faces all over the TV and you might stop the notoriety factor.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 23 February 2018 8:20:07 AM
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Finally, I told you the tables were going to get turned on Hillary and Co this year and it's proceeding as expected behind the scenes.

- And I've been mostly right about everything so far, no-one challenges me anymore because none of you choose to search out the inside stories.
You're all content will the 90% propaganda the media feeds you, and I only need half an hr of the shows I normally watch anyway to stay ahead of everything.

Truly, YOUR NEWS IS CRAP. Mosly LIES / HALF TRUTHS, NARRATIVE and CONJECTURE.
Just enough to keep you all DUMB USEFUL IDIOTS and KNOWING NOTHING.

Ask yourselves what do you really know about anything?

If just a small portion of the stuff Hillary and Co was really up to comes out - (not that I expect YOUR news to report it well because they are complicit in it) Then you're all going to change your tune and consider whether Jesus personally CHOSE Trump as the man for the job.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 23 February 2018 8:36:44 AM
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Armchair Critic, what sort of drugs are you on.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Friday, 23 February 2018 6:19:59 PM
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I'm drunk on truth, it's you that doesn't get things.
Your suggestion is like asking Pauline Hanson to support free handouts to immigrants. Ridiculous.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 24 February 2018 3:40:52 AM
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AC,

Hillary supporter: "Hey, look over there ! A unicorn called Trump !"

Trump supporters : "Hey, look over there ! A unicorn called Hillary !"

A pox on both of your houses. Hillary has gone. Trump has less than three years, thank Christ. Then maybe we can get back to something like sense.

But i wouldn't bet any money on it.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 26 February 2018 1:48:07 PM
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For an insight into Trump's support by evangelicals you need to look no further than http://www.rightwingwatch.org/

It's not a parody site, it's very real.

These are people strongly behind the GOP, Trump and allegations of "fake news" from other sources if they dare to contradict their prejudices.

Despite his womanising and dishonesty Trump isn't a typical role model for them, yet they still feel he has been "appointed by God" to do His work.

They are no longer a bunch of radical lobbyists, there are now "part of the machine" itself.
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 8:29:22 AM
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