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Company tax cut a pain for most Australians : Comments

By Matt Thistlethwaite, published 16/2/2018

Company tax will put money in the pockets of big business and foreigners while ordinary Australians feel economic pain

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You couldn't be more wrong Yuyutsu. You are talking a return to pre WW11 conditions, & methods of manufacture.

Wages & living standards would have to go back to the 20s, or 30s, when no ordinary worker could afford a car, to own their own home, & struggled to put shoes on their kids feet.

It is not by design that nothing is repaired today, but by necessity. Anything electronic or electric has to be "potted" making it harder to repair to keep manufacturing costs down, not because it is desirable, but because the labour costs in complex repairs are just not viable. Reduce those labour costs, by cutting wages, & again, the kids go barefoot. I guess that would not matter, as manufactured that way, no worker could afford electronics anyway.

I don't know how many of todays population are ready to go back to renting a 4 room house, cooking on a fuel stove, & heating water for the weekly tub on it, but I doubt it is very many.

Be careful what you wish for, the global warming scam is aimed at puting you back there, the scammers don't need your help.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 18 February 2018 11:47:38 AM
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Judith Sloan had an article in The Australian yesterday which points out the ignorance of most people on company tax issues. It explains why some companies might not have paid taxes on occasion, and how some politicians and ABC ranters thinks profits always means taxes. And another thing: it's not big business that is dodging taxes, it's small business doing most of the rorting
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 18 February 2018 1:09:33 PM
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Hasbeen: You claim you used to be an Engineer? Well in my experience engineers dealt almost exclusively in facts! Not rumour or a confirmation bias!

So here are a few irrefutable facts for you to ruminate on.

#1/ The weather is subject to NORMAL climate variations, i.e., #2/ when the sun goes into it habitual and normal waning phase, the joint cools and advancing polar and glacial ice is par for the course.

#3/ when it goes into its waxing phase the opposite happens and the geological record bears witness with, e.g., a fossilized forest in Antarctica.

#4/ when we get an El Nino event there is a short burst of global warming.

#5/ A La Nina event welcomes a cooling event and increased Australian rainfall.

#6/ Because we follow an elliptical orbit around our sun, there are minor variations in that, that are usually a bit each way, over the year or orbit.

#7/ What never ever happens is record heat waves and disappearing ice during a waning phase!

According to NASA and some very sensitive satellite mounted instruments and as reported by them for public consumption, we have been in a waning phase since the mid seventies.

#8/ 2017 the third hottest year on record was a La Nina year!

Old mate, sparring partner, specialist in rational and logical thought, the nation's engineers are compelled by the factual evidence!

One of which is, CO2 is at record percentages and in never before charted territory.

I don't know if you have or are expecting Grandkids Has, but I hope you can look them in the eye and say, I know you will be better off than me or your parents, because I've left you my coal company shares.

Which could be virtually worthless by the time they reach adulthood?

And God only knows what kind of a world they'll inherit and whether they'll proper, let alone survive as an overpopulated impoverished world goes to perpetual war for diminishing natural resources! Returning to a waxing phase?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 18 February 2018 3:38:47 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

I am not proposing a return to the 1920's/1930's, but only to the 1960's/1970's/1980's, which were optimal times.

Of course we are not going to forget the good things we learnt since, including in medicine, but yes, products like shoes and cars ought to be made well to last and repaired when necessary rather than thrown to the rubbish dump. Parts thereof can also be reused because the models won't be changing all the time. Electric water-heaters and the like are fine and can be maintained locally, as opposed to digital electronic toys that cannot be repaired on a local scale even if we wanted and then they become obsolete anyway within 2-5 years (not to mention their being subject to foreign hacking and spying).

Yes, one will have to be rich to obtain these toys, which will no longer be normal household items, but we don't really need those and can do better without them. Enthusiasts could still get such luxuries from overseas for a premium price for as long as "overseas" continues to exist, while the rest of us will sigh with relief when we continue to survive once the rest of the world starves because they sought the glittery stuff and forgot the basics.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 18 February 2018 4:15:20 PM
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Come on Yuyutsu, it costs twice as much to get the old fashioned half sole & heal on real shoes, as it does to get a pair of imported plastic shoes. The real things cost a kings ransom.

Alan it does sound as if you actually believe that garbage. I suppose you must think the deep freeze in most of the northern hemisphere is a symptom of global warming.

Pity, apart from falling for this scam, you usually talk sense.

I have little interest in the subject as I know CO2 can not cause global warming
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 18 February 2018 6:02:16 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

«The real things cost a kings ransom.»

Of course, one gets what one pays for.
Some of our younger readers have never experienced the real things, but are addicted to cheap plastic and worse.

The problem is that this compromise for short-term gain creates dependency and with it comes moral insensitivity, forgetfulness and the loss of genuine skills, which in turn leads to slavery.

If local craftsmen and small businesses can mould one-piece plastic shoes on their own, then why not? But if they cannot, then you know that something has gone very wrong.

When one has to choose between going barefoot and Chinese rule, I wonder how many will find the strength to choose the former. Fortunately, we can act now so that nobody will have to face such terrible choices in future.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 18 February 2018 7:07:29 PM
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