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Science or silence? My battle to question doomsayers about the Great Barrier Reef : Comments
By Peter Ridd, published 12/2/2018The reef is supposedly almost dead from the combined effects of a warming climate, nutrient pollution from Australian farms, and smothering sediment from offshore dredging.
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Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:32:53 AM
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Yes, Diver, no science to support your scurrilous support for the climate fraud, just a pointless comment to underline your ignorance.
You have told us that you are ignorant of climate science, but you still support the climate fraud, and dishonest, science lacking perpetrators like JCU.I did not call you any names, so your mindless assertion must refer to the names you called yourself. Stick to what you know, Diver, and we will hear very little of you. Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 15 February 2018 1:14:38 PM
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The Great Barrier Reef is made up primarily of dead coral limestone, and the structre is fringed with living and sometimes dead coral, true or false?
So how can it be correct to say the Great Barrier Reef, the limestone structure, is dead or dying? As for nutrient from farms, how can N&P from farms be singled out and measured as different in quantity to the N&P from city and town sewage? How can transportation of dissolved nutrient in the Australian east coast sediment dispersal system be ignored in GBR coral science, when nutrient fed algae mass can be seen covering dead coral? Consider nutrient bonded to fresh water that travels in surface water pushed northwards by prevailing S and SE wind. See: http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2112/08-1120.1 I first dived on the GBR in the 1960's. As i write this now I am sittig on a Pacific Island coral shore where most coral is dead and green with nutrient pollution prolferated algae. Beware about cry wolf and real damage to coral worldwide. Posted by JF Aus, Thursday, 15 February 2018 2:41:35 PM
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"The university and the institutions are making good money from research grants and to keep that money going requires scaring people over reef/global warming."
This is untrue. Universities lose money on research grants. The University has to provide all of the infrastructure and salaries of the PIs. The grant itself goes on salaries and operating support for the project. The Federal Government pays a small fraction of the value of grants to Universities to support the infrastructure, but it is not enough. Scaring people does not keep the grant money rolling in. People get tired of being scared pretty quickly. You have to show the research is good as well, otherwise your peers will rip your grant application to shreds. Ridd has a personal stake in downplaying the impact of human activities on the reef, as it brings in his consultancies. If he is right and JCU is wrong that will turn up in his court case. Fighting his battle on FOX News suggest he has lost his sense of perspective. Posted by Agronomist, Thursday, 15 February 2018 3:08:37 PM
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Agro: Scaring people does not keep the grant money rolling in. People get tired of being scared pretty quickly. You have to show the research is good as well,
Nah! If they get found out they just shift the scare focus somewhere else. I see the latest prediction has begun to shift to Global Freezing, predicted for about 2035. GF failed to materialize in the 80's, GW has failed in 20's & GF will fail again in the 50's. & the cycle of fear goes on. Someone is making money off this. Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 15 February 2018 3:30:31 PM
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"I see the latest prediction has begun to shift to Global Freezing"
I can't see anything in the scientific literature suggesting this as a possible outcome. The news stories come from a conference presentation by a mathematician suggesting they are able to accurately predict the Sun's magnetic activity. This is probably unlikely, but even if there is a sustained period of low magnetic activity, the Earth won't cool that much because of all the extra carbon dioxide placed in the atmosphere. In fact based on solar activity alone, the Earth should be in a cooling phase now, but it isn't. Posted by Agronomist, Thursday, 15 February 2018 4:05:59 PM
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It's like my good old mother said many years ago, "sticks and stones will break your bones, but a good slap across the left wooly lug-hole will do you better".
I was never one to grow contemptuous inside the captive ordinance.
You sound very comfortable in there Leo. Best of British!