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The Forum > Article Comments > Science or silence? My battle to question doomsayers about the Great Barrier Reef > Comments

Science or silence? My battle to question doomsayers about the Great Barrier Reef : Comments

By Peter Ridd, published 12/2/2018

The reef is supposedly almost dead from the combined effects of a warming climate, nutrient pollution from Australian farms, and smothering sediment from offshore dredging.

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Agro: It is indeed a false claim. Universities lose money on research grants, Consultancies and contract research are different.

Semantics, & we all know that Consultancies are a big Con bordering on Fraud. It all has to do with Creative Accounting. Ay.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 8:02:35 PM
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The actual problem could be lead joins in copper pipes, sending you all mad on rhis thread here. TIC LOL
Lack of scientific evidence gets me.

There is no scientific evidence of how gravity is generated and no one can produce gravity in a laboratory.

Reality is gravity exits, plus, GBR and world coral is being damaged and devastated by nutrient overload proliferated algae, nothing to do with CO2 emissions
Posted by JF Aus, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 8:14:54 PM
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You did not need to present further evidence that your thinking faculty is deeply flawed by making the assertion” and then goes on to make precisely that assertion. Some people are just fools”
You say that my constant assertion is .” human activities having no impact on the climate”. When asked to indicate one instance of such an assertion by me, you point to my comment:”to direct us to any science which shows a measurable human effect on climate. You are unable to do so, because there is no such science”. You lack the ability to think straight Agro. No wonder you are a fraud supporter.
Talking nonsense is your attempt to distract from the fact that you have no science to support your position.
Of course human activity has a local effect on climate, and I am asking if you have any evidence of a measurable global effect, and you are so addled in your thinking that you cannot give a straight answer
Posted by Leo Lane, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:55:26 PM
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You have hit the nail on the head there, Leo Lane, it's local not global change.
Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 5:22:47 AM
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JFA: GBR and world coral is being damaged and devastated by nutrient overload proliferated algae,

The GBR is just about to die again. Have you seen the nutrient overload coming out of the Burdekin River at the moment. Imagine what the overload was before the Dam was built.

LL: Of course human activity has a local effect on climate.

I agree but not the the extent Globally that is claimed. Global Warming is Cyclical over many tens of thousands of years.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 8:03:18 AM
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Jayb

A sudden burst of nutrient from runout of a natural or modified Australian east coast river is not likely to amount to nutrient overload pollution. Australian east coast rivers do not run daily. They only run following considerable rain.

Farmer's know that distributing fertilizer once a month does not cause damage (but is likely a waste money).

However, add upriver town sewage to various rivers flowing into coastal alongshore current already loaded with southern city and town sewage nutrient dumped daily, then the nutrient load from all the point sources will likely amount to nutrient pollution causing damage.

Aus river silt contains solid nutrient and soil matter that is visible and settles locally, compared to dissolved N&P nutrient that is invisible and is bonded to fresh water transported long distances in surface current driven by prevailing winds.

Evidence I have indicates climate science has a lot to learn, especially about the Sea Surface Temperature (SST) that is a known anomaly in AGW science.

Warmth in ocean and waterway algae plant matter was not measured and assessed in AGW Kyoto associated science.
Buy I think its being measured and assesed right now.
Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 5:32:05 PM
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