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#MeToo should not be undermined from within : Comments

By Dilan Thampapillai, published 18/1/2018

I don't know why, but the recent take-down of Aziz Ansari in the press and on social media feels like a turning point. It seems like this is the moment that #MeToo slipped its moorings.

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Consensual sex is only ever rape if it's conditional and the conditions are breached. All sex has community standards attached to it, i.e. age limits, mental capacity etc.

The only thing that has made any of this possible is silence, the power of the purpertrater, their lack of empathy, humanity, common human decency, and moral fibre.

Me too should not be undermined from within, or without as this article seems to attempt?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:09:12 AM
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>"However, justice cannot be built upon the back of injustice. Feminism is not incompatible with due process and fairness. If anything, feminism has always been a struggle for fairness and justice."

I sincerely hope you are being "Ironic."

https://clairelehmann.net/2014/11/24/false-claims-belittle-a-good-cause/
Posted by Wolly B, Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:23:41 AM
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Dilan, there is a vast difference between being feminine and feminist and not many women activists have carried the two together successfully from what I see being forced down our throats with #MeToo#. They have lost objectivity, they continue the Germaine Greer like castigation of men with their Wimmin slogans. Even Mizzz Greer herself has weighed in on the misdirected campaign in recent weeks.

Whilst anyone who has committed unlawful or illegal acts against another should be called to task by the relevant court of law, it is the almost Erinye like modus operandi of the current crusaders for wimminfolk who need to keep this in mind.

This has a parallel mythological status within LGBTI culture.
[From: theoi.com] "No prayer, no sacrifice, and no tears can move them, or protect the object of their persecution The wrath of the Erinyes could only be placated with the rite [sic] ritual purification and the completion of some task assigned for atonement."

What like cutting off the testicles of offenders ? More likely a frothing at the mouth pursuit via media ratings driven imperatives if ever there was. Hopefully it will soon pass. When tv personalities like Dr Phil can be shut down because they expose paedophile networks, this sends a thinly veiled message to those attempting to shine light on other equally appalling behaviour...don't rock the boat if you are a bloke.

No Dilan, we have gone rapidly [rabidly?] past the point where the scales of equality were horizontal, arriving instead at a time in history whereby it has now become a dirty fight for superiority by all means possible.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Thursday, 18 January 2018 11:41:04 AM
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Hollywood preaching on morals is like paedophile priests preaching on childcare.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 18 January 2018 11:46:39 AM
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Yes #MeToo represents many interests, some self-serving.

For example Oprah Winfrey creating conditions for a run at US President in 2020. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-09/oprah-for-president-winfrey-fans-urge-white-house-run/9313544

As a TV star and billionaire Oprah has all Trump's qualifications. http://www.forbes.com/profile/oprah-winfrey/
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 18 January 2018 12:09:24 PM
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No doubt Oprah who has made millions thanks to American founders will play the victim card. Imagine she grew up in one the the countries that President TTrump recently described.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 18 January 2018 2:39:12 PM
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Oprah grew up regularly and routinely abused by a deadbeat drunk dad and escaped him marrying someone worse, And in both incarnations, dirt poor. I guess none of the brothers commenting here have been poor or raped?

Certainly they would seem to possess less empathy than your average Nazi/white supremacist? And nobody put the hate laced words in these "mens" mouths?

If it spruiks like a monster, walks like a monster, or rattles the cage like a monster? Then there are good odds it is a women hating R sole/monster!

I wonder how brave any of these paper warriors would be foaming their vitriol in Oprah's face? Bet none would be brave enough, nor put their real moniker to their toilet wall scribble?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 18 January 2018 5:08:33 PM
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Knock knock Alan B !

Yeah #Me Too# I was subjected to domestic violence of the type women receive, physical, financial & emotional. In gaining what they now term "Sole Care & Control" of my 2 sons there were many occasions at court and outside courtrooms, not to mention the access changeovers at the local Police Station whereby I was subjected to more abuse because the boys mother had the Feminazi's at her disposal.

On one supervised access visit I was alleged to have assaulted my former wife. At approximately 11.00 pm that evening (7 hours after the actual access visit) the door of the house was kicked in by Police acting on a Domestic Violence/ Assault allegation. At the end of the day it went as far as the District Court, as the 2 supposed "witnesses" did not attend the court after my solicitor had written to them individually to explain that making statements with false information was what constituted 'perjury' and could attract a 7 year gaol time.

Further, after the 18 months of to-ing & fro-ing from the Family Court/District Court/Police Station I got to ask the judge on the last hearing day: " "How does a person get convicted of crime he did not commit, when witness who signed statements to police lied, the complainant lied and the people who were giving her information lied at the outset of this matter coming before you Your Honour ?" His reply was : " The court has obligations, and those obligations are often the result of the pendulum swing whereby women's written and spoken testimony, whether true or not are taken as the truth, quite in contrast to what has happened in fact here today."

So Alan, I resent what you espouse here. For if one person can be had up and convicted of something they didn't commit, then how many other persons similarly disposed could also be found guilty of something they didn't commit?

I'm thoroughly sickened by what I see from Oprah & the Hollywood farce.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Thursday, 18 January 2018 6:10:34 PM
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All perpetrators are always innocent, and it was always her fault. And are clever enough to if possible, to intimidate witnesses from giving evidence or making sworn statement, like a former brother in law.

This mongrel left my Sister for dead all her teeth kicked in! He eventually remarried continued to binge drink and was found dead aged 47 of an apparent Cardiac arrest. I know how to arrange one not that I ever would. Albeit, not above using it on a feral animal or vermin.

Do I believe, you're the innocent party, Albie? Yes sure, oh sure, absolutely, yes sure, yeah sure, you betcha. You wouldn't lie to me would you Albie? Surely it was, as you say, all her fault? You are an innocent man just as were all the crims depicted, in, Shawshank redemption.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 18 January 2018 8:47:32 PM
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Australia's ABC News http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-19/brigitte-bardot-says-actresses-complaining-for-attention/9342246 January 19, 2018:

"French activist and former actress Brigitte Bardot says many actresses sexually provoke film producers to win roles and then complain about harassment to get attention."
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 19 January 2018 11:19:59 AM
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The Aziz Ansari issue is a seismic shift that women have been waiting for, for centuries. The issue defines the psychological power struggle that women have been consistently losing.

The patriarchy defines sexuality as a thing that men proactively assert by nature of evolution, while women's sexuality is a passive thing that men must ignite, by whatever means necessary.

This is what feminists mean by 'rape culture'. Women are conditioned to view their sexuality as being constantly under siege. Don't be a sexual being, with sexual needs in your own right. Don't ever assume that you are an equal partner in any sexual encounter - whether it's with a man you picked up in a bar or a man you've been married to for years.

A woman's sexuality is a passive thing to be seduced, coerced and bullied.

So Aziz Ansari has been targeted for outing, especially as he's built a reputation as a defender of women's rights. He's an 'innocent' victim of feminist rage. Wrong man; wrong time.

But you've gotta start somewhere.

And even though 'Grace's' identity has remained anonymous (but in a social media age, not for long), 'revenge' is an insufficient excuse for putting her life and integrity up for vengeful grabs by an unforgiving male-centric system.
Posted by Killarney, Sunday, 21 January 2018 3:54:00 AM
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Too late.

Feminist dogma, a la Female Eunuch, is out of date.

Wimmins' sexuality can always be triggered by self-administration and the efforts of LGBTIQs etc.

AND get legally Married under civil law now, to boot.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 3:15:52 PM
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Are you talking to ME?

If so, I've no idea what you are talking about. Could you speak English please?
Posted by Killarney, Thursday, 25 January 2018 3:51:22 AM
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