Ant,

You need to look up the word speculative, most of the measurements might not have complied to the new standards, but, as I showed previously most included measures to avoid radiation, the measurements would not differ significantly from standard measurements, so to try and dismiss them is somewhat mendacious.

What is speculative is the predictions most make on the results of climate change.

Shadow Minister

It is hard to argue against views expressed in the 1890s made by people with a Meteorological background.

I do not doubt there was a heat wave and sadly many people died. But, neither you, nor I can state absolutely that the temperatures measured were accurate.

What I can say with certainty is that our Arctic thermostat is not functioning properly. Permafrost thawing, erosion and slumping is occurring as a consequence; and methane blow outs are definitely happening.
There are many other observable factors displaying climate change.

With regard to the state of coral reefs, who do you gain advice from; a scientist such as Charlie Veron, a scientist who has identified a great number of corals; or, people without any professional experience.

LOL,
From Rendova Island I just drove a canoe across the Blanche Channel and entered Roviana Lagoon through a reef passage where all the coral is dead and covered with algae.

Coral is already dead or is being killed or damaged by nutrient over-load feeding over abundance of algae.
Is there any scientist with evidence to prove otherwise?

The GBR limestone reef is still there but living coral that once virtually covered that limestone base is not there.

Lies and BS are allowing nutrient over-load pollution to feed more algae and kill more coral.

The BS and lies are also killing GBR tourism.

Ant,

It would be very difficult to believe that you have scientific training. Accuracy is relative, and proportionate to the task at hand. I don't need to know the time to the nanosecond for a meeting, but I do for GPS.

Similarly for a newspaper article I don't quote the temperature to the nearest 1/10th of a degree, but for meteorological I would need to Probably exceed that accuracy.

What I can say with certainty is that the temperature in Sydney in 1896 was far higher that any time since and that temperature was approximately 49C.

Shadow Minister

You are jumping to conclusions, understand the reference that I provided. Metereologists in the 1890s were talking about how taking temperature measure was all over the place during that time. Taking temperature to the nth degree of accuracy was not the issue. The issue was placement of where temperature was being taken from.

The salient point is what is happening through temperature increasing that is of importance.
There are no arguments against permafrost thawing; it takes warming temperatures over a significant time to begin to cause permafrost to thaw.

The global temperature measure for 2017 is significant in that it is the highest temperature measured without an el nino influencing it. Now, denier claims in relation to 1998 relation are knocked out.

Come on JF Aus, nutrient over-load in Roviana Lagoon. When did they build the 100,000 population city, with a modern sewerage system there. The last time I was in Munda there were just 2 Europeans, & not too many locals living there.

Just like our Fitzroy river kills much coral with silt at each flood, that area is prone to very heavy rain, & is often too dirty with silt for coral survival.

When sailing around that area, & looking for a way through the reef, you only need to find a little river, & you know the silt & the fresh water will have prevented coral growth, & you will find a passage through the reef.

Stop the typical greeny bulldust of blaming people for natures doing.