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OIC in legal fantasyland over Trump, Jerusalem and Israel : Comments

By David Singer, published 27/12/2017

There is however territory-specific legislation that negates this OIC claim – namely article 6 of the Mandate for Palestine and article 80 of the United Nations Charter.

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Nice to see the IDF arresting 16 yr old girls,shooting a man with no legs, people resist occupying forces similar to the Resistance in WW 2 to the Germans.
That one thing the Israelis have learned the IDF is just a milder version of the SS in the occupied Palestinian land
Posted by John Ryan, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 11:17:53 AM
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Needs an overview of the whole Palestine situation. Not cherry picking which David does on behalf of Zionists while accusing those supporting Palestinians of doing it. Remember how it started was by the British who in 1917 promised a Jewish homeland in an area of the collapsing Ottoman Empire they acquired control of to gain Zionist support to gain the USA support to help them in the war against Germany. Effectively giving away part of something that was already owned by Palestinians. Of these around 10% were Jews who had long lived in harmony with others.

Self interest was obviously a covert reason why many other countries supported the idea. Seems everywhere Jews have settled, some of them seriously antagonise locals to the extent that there is a list of when and where over several hundred years they have been kicked out of over a hundred jurisdictions. One notable one was the Haavara agreement in the 1930's when Hitler and associates helped around 60,000 German Jews move to Palestine.

There has been a long history of the Zionists in what is now Israel taking more from Palestinians than originally agreed. At least now it will hopefully soon be curtailed and reversed. Thanks to the Internet, the sordid sides of Israel, especially mistreating Palestinians is becoming more widely exposed. Effectively under the present government, which the Zionist dominated US administration strongly supports it is the Criminal Apartheid Zionist Settler State in Occupied Palestine. Important to note that there are some Jews, including Orthodox religious ones who oppose the existence of Jewish state. Seems its strongest supporters largely have Ashkenazi Jew ancestry. Their heritage is not from the area around Palestine. but the order of 1,200 km northwards. ie The kingdom of Khazaria which was destroyed by Russians and Persian who were sick of troublesome neighbours who around 500 years before had been converted to Judaism in an unsuccessful attempt to improve their ethical standards
Posted by mox, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 1:25:18 PM
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David. I cannot see where you have managed to 'cherry pick' information in the clearly stated and varifiable statements in the essay. The simple 'legality' of your statements leaves an "overiew of the whole palistinian situation" not only redundant but wasted time.
The fact that Australia abstained from the recent vote at the UN is both an insult to our most important ally but an embarassement to us all.
I do hope that Nikki Haleys' recent threats are equally applied to the Turnbull government.
The comparrison of the IDF with nazi Germany is an indication of the gob smacking ignorance and mendacity of many of your commenters and the reason I skip redaing most of them after the forst sentence.
Posted by Prompete, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 1:45:44 PM
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Aided by the usual UN resolutions and ignoring the terrorists while condemning Israel, many people, especially Millennials, have now bought into the myth that Jerusalem and even other parts of Israel, were stolen from the Palestinians.

Israel has unchallenged 3,500-year biblical history and attachment to the Holy Land. Jews were in Jerusalem 2,000 years before Islam raised its ugly head.

At the time of the Balfour Agreement, the Arab world showed no interest at all in Jerusalem or the Al-Aqsa holy site. Almost none of the Arab leaders ever bothered to visit the Holy City, even after the city fell into Jordanian hands following the 1948 war with Israel; but, it would be difficult to find a Jewish leader anywhere who has not visited the Western Wall, the holiest site in Judaism.

The brouhaha from the Muslims now is just another attack on the only democracy in the Middle East. They don't have a leg to stand on.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 1:56:28 PM
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The argument re the 3,500 year Biblical his-story used to justify this completely stupid decision is complete and utter garbage. And its needs to be considered within the context of the Zionist project to restore ALL of the "promised" Biblical lands to the Jews which has huge support among the tens of millions of American Christian Zionist "true-believers" and their "end-times" "second-coming-of-christ" balderdash as promoted by the very influential Left Behind series of books.

One thing that it confirms is that Judaism especially in its Zionist form is first and foremost a POLITICAL "religion", or more precisely, a power-and-control-seeking cult.

Secondly Real God as Infinitely Radiant Conscious Light does not grant anybody exclusive rights or possession of any piece of real estate on this planet, whatever the size of the piece of land. Nor does the Infinitely Radiant Conscious Light make promises or grant "covenants" to any group of people, however large or small.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 3:49:42 PM
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Stand by Israel, or stand by terrorists. That's all the Palistinian government produces anymore. Why is this debated? Why is there confusion! Seria is in Civil war. As is many Islamic states in civil unrest, or civil war. Do we want to make things right? Then address the issues that are at the root. Isreal is not at the root. It is a part of a violent overgrowth of Islam. To fix the root, Islam would need to really be peaceful, not just say it is. To fix the root the leaders would need to curb corruption, and build up their nations. Make their nations for their people.

It is a problem that exists in all nations. But in Islam it has become a violent overgrowth. a cancer that spews out of their countries and spreads. Stand by Israel and fight against terrorism.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 4:23:39 PM
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