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Why the documentary must not be allowed to die : Comments

By John Pilger, published 22/12/2017

'The Quiet Mutiny' had revealed that the US army in Vietnam was tearing itself apart. There was open rebellion.

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This's crap, pure and simple and sounds like the crap? John and a few of his pro Russian commie mates dreamed up while high on china white? Liberally embellished with the perpetual joint that seemed to hang from young GI's lips, as they headed out on patrol. Ghetto blaster carried near the rear, to engage the enemy in a tacit, reportedly known as the mouse trap, where they were the cheese.

Not that anyone told the rulers of the world, this is how their lack lustre general staff were using them? As John is now?

There was so much wrong with this war, the domino theory, which conversely, worked well for Islam. As they migrated from the middle east through central, South/Eastern Asia and Eastern Europe.

Vietnam was, set piece, medieval, full frontal attacks/bombing raids against entrenched Guerrillas, with enormous collateral damage and a war of attrition that spent more young American lives, than that lost during WW11.

And only exceeded since then, by the horrendously unsuccessful 80+ year long, war on drugs!

But I digress, not only was the Vietnam campaign spectacularly unsuccessful! But when the enemy had spent every resource in the Tet offensive and was exhausted in both men and resources! A counter attack should have been launched and driven all the way to Hanoi.

Instead they/we abandoned/vacated the field! And where America lost all credibility as a dependable ally, we cannot rely on anymore, for very much?

That said, John's largely mischievous veracious unsubstantiated or confected/duplicitous, mocumentory ought be allowed to gather mould in the dustbin of history!

We cannot go back and fight old wars or like John? Rewrite history? When, conveniently, so many of the contrarian eyewitnesses have passed on or have succumbed, like John? To the rigours of old age and (smoked brain) dementia?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 22 December 2017 10:03:31 AM
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The info is in the book about Thorium pot-smoking .
"By 1970, the U.S. Army had 65,643 deserters, roughly the equivalent of four infantry divisions. In an article published in the Armed Forces Journal (June 7, 1971), Marine Colonel Robert D. Heinl Jr., a veteran combat commander with over 27 years experience in the Marines, and the author of Soldiers Of The Sea, a definitive history of the Marine Corps, wrote:
“By every conceivable indicator, our army that remains in Vietnam is in a state approaching collapse, with individual units avoiding or having refused combat, murdering their officers and non-commissioned officers, drug-ridden, and dispirited where not near mutinous. Elsewhere than Vietnam, the situation is nearly as serious… Sedition, coupled with disaffection from within the ranks, and externally fomented with an audacity and intensity previously inconceivable, infest the Armed Services...”

2 unis have confirmed the article exists :

Colonel Robert Heinl and his Armed Forces Journal Article
June 1971 was when Marine Colonel Robert Heinl published his article on the "collapse" of thearmed forces in the Armed Forces Journal, June 1971. He cited, by this time, cases of avoiding combat, murder of officers and NCOs, race war, drug dependence, 144 underground newspapers and 14 GI dissent organizations, ...

GI Movement: History - University of Washington
By 1971, Colonel Robert Heinl was forced to write in the Armed Forces Journal that the “morale, discipline and battleworthiness of the U.S. Armed Forces are, with a few salient exceptions, lower and worse than at any time in this century and possibly in the history of the United States.”[1] The GI movement eventually ...
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 22 December 2017 11:34:11 AM
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