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Why Trump is right in recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital : Comments

By Alan Dershowitz, published 12/12/2017

Obama's decision to change that policy was not based on American interests or in the interests of peace. It was done out of personal revenge against Prime Minister Netanyahu.

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Alan B.
Another item for another day, but Israeli communities built in area C of Judaea and Samaria are not illegal. I suggest you read up on the Oslo Accords, which Arafat signed with Israel. That land will be swapped for other land, when and if the Arabs want peace, but they don't.
There lies the crux of the matter.
The other problem is that if Mahmoud Abbas even dares to try, he's a dead man.
Posted by SF, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 1:19:48 PM
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When has any peoples other than Jews had Jerusalem as their capital ?
The Muslims have put themselves in a no win situation.
It was not a capital but a province of Syria as part of the Ottoman empire.
They cannot deny anything in the Koran under sentence of death.
The Koran states that any land occupied by muslims remains muslim forever.
Therefore the Arab occupation of Jerusalem at the time of the crusades
and the Arab invasion of Mesopotamia means that Jerusalem is
moslem and remains so forever.

Having occupied Jerusalem and Judea they would be executed for blasphemy
if they agreed that there was anyplace for Jews anywhere.
That is why Abbas and the Gaza mob can NEVER agree to a compromise.

It sounds like Trump and the US government has realised this and has
no interest in continuing this farce any longer.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 1:20:43 PM
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Old Jewish homes in C are legal , the illegal settlements are illegal says Israel's court.

"Jewish population in Area C is administered by Judea and Samaria Area administration, whereas Palestinian population is directly administered by Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories and indirectly by the Palestinian National Authority in Ramallah. Area C, excluding East Jerusalem, is home to 385,900 Israeli settlers and approximately 300,000 Palestinians."
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Quran does not prevent Jewish government:
"And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel,
"Dwell securely in the land (of promise)":
But when the second of the warnings came to pass,
We gather you together in a mingled crowd.

surah 17:101-104 Al Isra' (The Night Journey) . Some commentators understand the second warning to be the Day of Judgment, the Promise of the Hereafter.

Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'n, p. 703.
"Quran explicitly refers to the return of the Jews to the Land of Israel before the Last Judgment".
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Capital cities don't belong to an ethnic group. Brussels was anciently the capital of Belgium which does not stop EU using it. Invading Belgium was bad in 1914 and 1940 . Belgians went to war and land grabs were illegal . A few Australians fired a couple of rounds.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 1:52:39 PM
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The forthright ttbn.
One fourth right.
Three fourths wrong.
The majority of the time.
Posted by ateday, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 5:18:20 PM
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Well, some might argue and do, that dispossessed Islamists, have no kick back or equal before the law, Justice, when their land is resumed, shall we say, by the conquering invader?

And even if you agree with that premise or that some section of Israel, was and remains exclusively Jewish enclaves? And for all time?

On whose authority? Israeli courts? Even where they disagree with the UN or the international court in the Hague?

What then of displaced Christians who've lived nowhere else for the alleged 3,000 plus years on inherited land? And can trace their genetic origins right back to Abraham and; not ever diluted with various European bloodlines as in many of the allegedly returning Jewish families!?

What of the dispossessed Christians!? Coptic and Orthodox. And in their claimed hundreds of thousands! What then of them?

Is it okay for their ancestral land and from the time of Abraham to be "resumed" with the alleged imprimatur of the occupier's court?

Who claim then that it's all legal?

There's only one peaceful means to end this crap and that is for the commercial boycott to not only continue but ramp up and ramped up until the Israeli Leadership or those pulling their strings?

Chose a different course of action and come to the realisation that there's no other course than peaceful cohabitation and settling for what you are given rather than take!

And just because you can as you replicate the Nazi occupation of a conquered Poland and any other annexed by force of arms, country?

The two sides need to sit down and state their final position and then see what they need to give up (tit for tat) to end this never ending bloodletting that can only ever end badly.

As for Mr Trump?

He'll be fine on the very top of Trump towers, listening to a rousing rendition of the 1812 overture and remaining untouched and untouchable?

Behind the wall that is the US military. And the undisputed Lord and Master of all he surveys! And is yet to acquire?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 12 December 2017 7:00:18 PM
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Seems to me it was an excellent move by Trump to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Has served very well to draw attention to the nature of the Criminal Zionist Apartheid Settler State in Occupied Palestine and its main sponsors, those who wield power in the USA. Trump and Netanyahu have been the only world leaders to publicly support it while their has been widespread condemnation and protests from many governments and organisations throughout the world. Then there have been a number of reasons pointed out why it is technically illegal anyway. However, these criminal governments have long been ones who carry on as if they are "exceptional" and standards others largely expect do not apply to them.
Posted by mox, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 11:02:36 PM
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