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Fixations of propriety: the Manus closure scandal : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 13/11/2017

Australia, after all, has a humanitarian intake, and boasts about it like a vulnerable child who feels her grades the best in class.

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Clearly Binoy wants to see kids dieing in the sea.
just look at Europe because they have not put in a similar measure to us there are 10 of thousands of entries a year and many die trying to make the crossing.
Just try putting "how many refugees drowned in the Mediterranean" into google.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Monday, 13 November 2017 7:25:56 AM
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This is why the so called asylum seekers are so unpopular.

http://news.pngfacts.com/2017/03/a-refugee-on-manus-island-charged-for.html

"POLICE in Manus, Papua New Guinea have arrested and charged a refugee with sexual penetration of a 10-year-old girl.

The accused Muhammad Hussain, 28, of Pakistan nationality who is a refugee at the Australian run Asylum Processing Center was charged with sexual penetration.

Acting provincial police commander Senior Inspector David Yapu said the accused invited the victim and two other small girls to Kohai Lodge at ward two, Lorengau town.

While they were in the lodge, the accused sexually penetrated the victim four times in the room.

Mr Yapu said this was the second incident involving the refugees at Lorengau this year, and he was very frustrated of such incidents.

Read more: http://news.pngfacts.com/2017/03/a-refugee-on-manus-island-charged-for.html#ixzz4yFsjtYVC"
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 November 2017 7:28:24 AM
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Sad yes. We live in tough times. Our own people, particularly the marginalised poor, are missing out on affordable housing, leading to homelessness, as a direct consequence of refugees.

There must be a balanced outcome in the end. And in the end, the poor in our communities suffer the consequences disproportionately more, than the middle class that appear to drive the refugee agenda.

The current system of off shore detention for illegal entry into Australia, offers alternatives to illegals. These alternatives may not suit their agenda, but alternatives they are.

They are given food and lodging; health services and much more, while they make their own decisions about their own future. That is fair!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 13 November 2017 8:21:22 AM
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Forget this 'asylum seeker' nonsense. Illegals arriving, well … illegally … are just opportunists, using a situation in their countries to get themselves into what they see as a land of plenty with super dooper dole and welfare provisions.

Why haven't the bleeding hearts – AKA Australians trying to bring their country down – ever stopped to think why MOST PEOPLE IN THESE COUNTRIES STAY PUT AND SURVIVE, but a relatively few people, who destroy their documents are somehow at risk? There is no way that Australian bureaucrats dealing with these illegal intruders can ascertain whether or not they are being told lies. But, the very fact that most people in these flea-bitten countries continue to live as they always have pretty much shows that illegal arrivals are liars.

And, enough of this squawking about UN and international conventions, which are in no way binding on sovereign countries UNLESS those countries are silly enough to enshrine them by passing their own laws to do so. Australia was one such silly country in 1951 when the refugee situation bore no resemblance to the current one. Politicians can repeal such legislation at any time. Australia is not beholden to some unelected mob of dictators slinking around in Europe, where illegal immigration is out of control.

The real people of Europe and many politicians there covet Australia's “propriety-driven market modellers in Australian Immigration and Border Protection (who) discourage, and criminalise, the smuggler”.

There is no “brutality” on Manus Island. What we have there is a bunch of nasty,self-serving and crooked country-shoppers venting their spleens because they haven't been able to fool the Government, nor the bipartisan (in the matter of boat arrivals) Opposition into breaking their promise to the Australian people that anyone arriving by boat will not be resettled in Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 13 November 2017 8:23:26 AM
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I'm sorry for the extremely regrettable circumstances that may have caused some of these folk to abandon home and family? Yet cannot change the policy that has rendered the people smugglers business model completely defunct/Kaput!

These folk need to be made to understand, the only way they will be processed, THE ONLY WAY, is via their complete willing participation and promptly followed direction!

Nothing else, NOTHING WHATSOEVER, including the completely out of step, political imperatives of the green/elitists, left leaning loony tunes!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 13 November 2017 10:19:56 AM
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Come off it Binoy, no one forced to "flee persecution, harm and mortal risk" turns up well dressed, IPhone in hand after paying thousands to people smugglers.

These are gate crashing conmen, & if you don't know that, go back to school, & develop some reasoning ability.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 13 November 2017 3:25:48 PM
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