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Lock up your chickens before plague comes home to roost : Comments

By Roger Kalla, published 20/9/2005

Roger Kalla argues that Australia needs to restrict free-range chickens as a precautionary measure against avian flu.

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Indonesian authorities are labelling the recent outbreak of bird flu in and around Jakarta which has caused several human fatalities an 'epidemic'.This was reported in ABC online today - www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1465425.htm.

The authorities though seem to think that the geographical isolation of the Indonesian archipelago will protect it from the bird flu spreading across Indonesia . However if the bird flu is spread by wild migratory birds the protection of the seas surrounding Java and the other heavily populated islands might be an illusion. Is there a clue in the finding that some of the people infected were not working with poultry but were working at the Jakarta zoo? Some of the exotic species of birds were found to be infected but the question is how they became infected? The worrying possibility is that it was through migratory wild bird that made a stopover at the Zoo on their migration to Australia.
Posted by sten, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 6:47:47 PM
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With human overpopulation still being ignored, perhaps humans are the Earth's pathogens and Bird Flue is the antibody?
Posted by redneck, Sunday, 25 September 2005 6:04:35 PM
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The latest issue of Nature ( Vol 437, 6/10/2005) contains some further alarming news derived from forensic DNA analysis of the extinct 1918 strain of avian influenza virus derived from preserved tissue samples of people that fell victims to the flu. The complete decoding of the three genes in the virus postulated to be critical to it jumping the species barrier and becoming airborne have revealed striking similarities with the comparable genes in the H5N1 strain.
The conclusions from these comparisons are; 1) that a flu virus of avian origin doesn't have to mix with a human influenza virus and pick up larger sections of the human virus genome to adapt to its’ new host. Just a few critical changes in the original genes are required. 2) H5N1 has already acquired a few of the same changes as the 1918 strain but not all of them.
The quest is now to introduce changes in the H5N1 strain, in a high security laboratory, based on what we know about the 1918 strain and see which of the remaining mutations are the critical ones. This information could be used to develop new vaccines targeting the critical regions specifically or possibly to create new anti-viral drugs that block the actions of the mutated genes. However it is a race against time. To buy some time we need to reduce the number of times the virus replicates in birds and acquire new changes. Infected birds need to be rapidly identified and culled in Indonesia and other of our countries in our region with large population of infected poultry. Wild birds need to be screened for novel types of H5N1. I hope that the meeting in Brisbane that Australia has called to discuss this situation with its neighbours will consider to take direct action in stopiing the bird flu at is source and at the same time fund research into the comparative study of the 1918 strain and the H5N1 strain
Posted by sten, Thursday, 6 October 2005 8:47:13 AM
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Er... haven't we been here before?

Can anyone remember..... SARS?

Weren't we told exactly the same scary stories?

New Scientist headline, 15th April 2003: "SARS much more deadly than first estimated". At the end of the article they summarised thus "Uncertainty may dog the exact calculation, but it now seems clear that in the absence of a cure or a vaccine, SARS could eventually kill millions. The best hope is a vaccine. At a high-level meeting last week in Washington DC, every major vaccine company reported that it had begun a research programme."

And The Observer, dateline 27th April 2003, headline "The day the world caught a cold", breathlessly (sorry!) followed by "It began in a province of China, spread through Hong Kong to reach three continents and now threatens to plunge the world economy into freefall"

Is this ringing a bell yet?

abc News: "Sept. 15, 2005 — It could kill a billion people worldwide, make ghost towns out of parts of major cities, and there is not enough medicine to fight it. It is called the avian flu."

To the untrained eye they seem to be manifestations of the same Chicken Little "the sky is falling" school of journalism.

SARS Facts: During its brief reign in 2003 as epidemic-du-jour, SARS killed 775 people, the last reported case being in July of that year. Since then there has been one new case, in Hong Kong in January 2004. Wikipedia states that "In June of 2005, Chinese and European scientists working together reported that a drug used to treat schizophrenia has been shown to prevent and treat acute cases"

Avian Flu Fact: Fatalities to date:

Fifty seven.

Get a grip, people.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 6 October 2005 3:04:56 PM
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Rodger your scare mungering and lies to the Australian public to legalise cruety will back fire.
For the publics information bird flu and all others viris comes FROM INTENSIVE FARMING <> Not Free range. How stupid do you think the public are?
I heard that the industry were going to try to pull this one over the Australian Peoples eyes to get the Animal Liberation and other groups off their back
Also to control the industry buy shutting down free range.
How am i doing Rodger?
Hey you must have a leak in your sytem. EVERY BODY PLEASE DO A GOOGLE SEARCH>
shortcut to: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=+disease+caused+through+animal+intensive+farms+.+indonesia+&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N there are hundreds of such sites with experts saying that ALL diseases stems from the cruel intensive farming of ALL animals.
I encourage people to read these sites before listening to Rodger. Nice try Rodger but your a jerk!
Wendy Lewthwaite People Against Live Exports and intensive farming.
bUY FREE RANGE ALL FARMS TO BE FREE RANGE SLAUGHTER HERE FOR JOBS FOR OZ
Posted by Wendy Lewthwaite, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:46:47 PM
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Well, after the 2 foxes disposed of 4 out of 5 of our chickens, I'm probably going to let the last one also become 'munchies' for the foxes, better than some pesky feathered visitor giving it a nasty virus.

Wendy
I note you are an animal libber ? and disagree with intensive farming methods.
Are you also pro immigrations and for open borders ?

Wonder why we might need intensive farming methods ? hmmmm could it be our population ? But for me, I'd prefer to see small holdings and many more small markets. Not exactly an economic 'blockbuster' concept but boy it sure is good for community spirit, and.. oh thats a thought, people might be more healthy by eating good tucker and also interacting more meaningfully with others.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:58:29 PM
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