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Balfour Declaration falsehoods fuel Jew-hatred and Israel-bashing : Comments

By David Singer, published 7/11/2017

The centenary of the Balfour Declaration, 2 November 1917, is being used to delegitimise the State of Israel.

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Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 12 November 2017 8:32:26 AM
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//No amount of squirming, worming, twisting or turning by you can alter the fact that this is what Lord Balfour actually said:
"The Four Great Powers are committed to Zionism. And Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long traditions, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land"//

Which means that he necessarily said:

"And Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long traditions, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land"

Your argument is the same as trying to argue that Churchill never said "we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender" because that's an excerpt from a longer speech.

It's bollocks, and the more you dig your heels in about it the bigger a fool you make of yourself. But please do continue, because it is very amusing for the rest of us.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 12 November 2017 10:15:57 AM
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#nicknamenick

Ad hominem attacks on myself are the surest sign that you have no arguments to answer my claims that you deliberately misled OLO readers and besmirched my character by referring to Justice Rothman's letter without mentioning that I had responded to it in detail and that he had failed to reply.

The fact that you still refuse to apologise for your disgraceful conduct has not changed.

Once again - I would ask that you apologise.

#Toni Lavis

Yes - Balfour indeed said:
"And Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long traditions, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land"

That however is not what Manchester academic Nick Thobun reportedly claimed Lord Balfour said:
"Lord Balfour (declared), chillingly, that Zionism was 'of far profounder import than the desire and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land'

Balfour's stated reasons for reaching his conclusion appear to have been deliberately excised by Thobun.

That is what led me to state in my article:
"Nick appears to have been engaging in deliberate spin.

Nick should be looking for another job outside academia if this is the standard of his intellectual expertise."

Do you agree Thobun was justified in quoting Balfour as he did?

Just a "yes" or "no" this time around will suffice.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 12 November 2017 11:48:38 AM
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David ,
You asked the judge what did he mean . How is that "replying in detail"? Your responses did nothing to clear your name because you didn't detail anything and still don't . J-Wire published it so ask them about defaming you. Once again , David , the site I quoted contains your replies for anyone to read so what am I concealing from anyone?
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 12 November 2017 12:07:26 PM
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#nicknamenick

You state:
"David , the site I quoted contains your replies for anyone to read so what am I concealing from anyone?"

That is exactly what you concealed - when making this false and misleading remark:
"i don't have a CCTV or hacking laboratory to read your private mail."

I will not be diverted from seeking an apology from you for
deliberately misleading OLO readers and besmirching my character by referring to Justice Rothman's letter without mentioning that I had responded to it in detail and that he had failed to reply.

I am still waiting for your apology.
Posted by david singer, Monday, 13 November 2017 7:45:48 AM
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You are wrong in fact , in Law and in logic . You detract from the State of Israel by your wrong-headed contentions . I've repeated myself and it's boring .
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 13 November 2017 9:01:46 AM
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