Toni,

Theresa May still did better than Jacinda.

Perhaps someone should have mentored Juliar so that she would not cock it up so badly.

A lot has changed since 1922 David, including agreed to borders, an agreed to road map and an agreed to, two state solution! And an end to illegal settlements!

Leaving only one discernible reality? Israel takes whatever she can grab then hold, by whatever means possible? And then excuses or rationalises, with any and all means? Be it kangaroo courts or professional propaganda promulgation?

Even where it makes her look like, baby butchering Nazis and her army little better than SS storm troopers? Replete with a Gaza gulag and divide and rule repression.

And the new illegal settlements, little more than a shoot first, ask questions later, gun totting, wild west?

You like eye and tooth for tooth, as a response to alleged terrorist activities by the occupied? How about, all of your face and dental array instead?

David, sing the same old, same old worn out song for as long as you like! It will never ever make the indefensible, defensible, the inexcusable, excusable, the unjustifiable, justified, the demonstrably unsavoury, savoury, the massively unpalatable palatable! NEVER EVER!
Alan B.

Bugger,

Wrong thread again.

2010– According to Jane's Defense Weekly Israel has between 100 and 300 nuclear warheads, most of them are probably being kept in unassembled mode but can become fully functional "in a matter of days".
2010– "More than 100 weapons, mainly two-stage thermonuclear devices, capable of being delivered by missile, fighter-bomber, or submarine"
2014– "Approximately 80 nuclear warheads for delivery by two dozen missiles, a couple of squadrons of aircraft, and perhaps a small number of sea-launched cruise missiles."
2014– "300 or more" nuclear weapons.
2015– "Israel has 200, all targeted on Tehran".

Russian holy-land Crimea was liberated by nukes for peace on West Bank of the Black Sea. It was promised by Prince Ogavitch the Smasher backed by 1950 warheads. Israel obviously needs another 1700 nukes to save Jerusalem, city of peace.

Alan B

You state:

"A lot has changed since 1922 David, including agreed to borders, an agreed to road map and an agreed to, two state solution! And an end to illegal settlements!"

Please note:

1. Sovereignty still remains unresolved in Judea, Samaria and Gaza.

2. Israel placed 14 reservations on its acceptance of the Road Map

3. The so called "two-state solution" - two Arab states + plus one Jewish State - has been pursued for the last 24 years without going anywhere.

4. What you call "the illegal settlements" are legal in international law under article 6 of the Mandate for Palestine and article 80 of the United Nations Charter.

5. Yes - a lot has changed since 1922 - including:
(i) 78% of Palestine being offered to the Arabs in 1922 and being rejected
(ii) the Arabs rejecting the 1937 Peel Partition recommending partition of Palestine between Jews and Arabs
(iii) Jordan being granted independence in 1946 in contravention of the terms of the Mandate
(iv) the Arabs rejecting the UN partition of Western Palestine in 1947 into a Jewish State and an Arab state
(v) six Arab armies invading Palestine in 1948 in violation of international law - and Jordan illegally occupying Judea,Samaria and East Jerusalem between 1948-1967, whilst Egypt did likewise in Gaza for the same period.
(vi) The Arabs failure to create a Palestinian Arab state embracing all of Judea,Samaria and Gaza with east Jerusalem as its capital at any time between 1948 and 1967 with the stroke of an Arab League pen - after all the Jews living in these areas had been ethnically cleansed.
(vii) the Arabs rejecting Israeli offers in 2000/1 and 2008 that would have seen them obtain sovereignty in more than 90% of Judea Samaria and Gaza.

Regrettably the only thing that has not changed since 1922 is the Arab refusal to recognise the right of the Jewish people to reconstitute their National Home in their ancestral, biblical, historic and legally sanctioned homeland on an area of land about one third the size of Tasmania.

What a blight the Israeli government has become. If they are not slaughtering and terrorising Muslims in their own neighbourhood they are doing it in places like Myanmar.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-uproar-israel-halts-arms-sales-to-myanmar-report/

The chances of any just and lasting peace with this lot of war criminals in power is less than zero.