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Will the Palestinians ever play their cards right? : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 13/10/2017

Since it is widely assumed, however, that without Hamas no Israeli-Palestinian peace can endure, the question is how to persuade Hamas to accept the two preconditions without losing face.

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I think that unless Gaza has free elections and gets rid of Hamas there will never be peace with Israel.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 13 October 2017 8:58:20 AM
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Allah and Messiah own Jerusalem with Iran offering nukes to Hamas for a level playing field. Issa will fight for Islam and Trump has spare nukes. Mecca pulls a big crowd although Zion has stock markets. It should be a close run on the day.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 13 October 2017 9:17:58 AM
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What sort of peace are we talking about.....the one where the settlements are ongoing in the West Bank?
or the one where the Palestinians are supposed to forget the ongoing injustice they perceive...
this word 'peace seems to be misunderstood or bandied about like some political football where the meaning changes to suit the landscape
or is 'peace' a token when the Palestinians accept the subservient role relegated them by the peace loving Israelis while they continue displacing them under any pretext possible?
'Peace'? the Palestinians will never get it right as long as they think someone else will intervene on their behalf. nevva gunna happen.
They either learn to play the game as it needs to be played,'to win',or forget it.
Sooner or later they'll get it right
Posted by ilmessaggio, Friday, 13 October 2017 1:56:42 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

You wrote;

"I think that unless Gaza has free elections and gets rid of Hamas there will never be peace with Israel.”

You really don't support democracy in the ME do you. The people of Gaza had a free election and voted Hamas as their leaders. There is every indication that if another election was held then the same result would occur.

What you really want is an election with a predetermined result, one which suits Israel and therefore suits you. That dear chap is not democracy.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 13 October 2017 5:30:46 PM
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While ever Israel, the world`s greatest terrorist state, exists in its present mindset there will never be peace in the Middle East.
Posted by ateday, Friday, 13 October 2017 7:57:20 PM
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'Will the Palestinians ever play their cards right?'

That's a no-brainer. Of course they'll never play their cards right, because the cards are stacked against them. For now.
Posted by Killarney, Saturday, 14 October 2017 12:03:46 AM
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SR,

Is your version of democracy in the ME the elections in 2006 when Hamas won then set about murdering all the opposition leaders and members and cancelling all further elections. Considering that most people that speak out against Hamas are murdered, their polling is predictably favourable in spite of using most of the aid money meant for the people to build up an arsenal of weapons and tunnels to launch unsuccessful wars against Israel.

Peace requires compromise, which Hamas has made it clear that it has no intention of doing.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:31:29 AM
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Plotting any future for Gaza is incomplete, without the extraneous view of religion and its hold over decision making by Israel. For them, this is an historic and incomplete battle yet to be won. It's roots lie in Genesis and the battle plan lays-out in Deuteronomy 7 1&2.

Archon Invasion: The Rise, Fall and Return of the Nephilim
by Rob Skiba

“ Skiba consistently reiterates, God's plans can never be thwarted. Regardless of what plan the enemy hatches, God is in control and just as Caleb and Joshua led the charge against the giants of their day, ( the Nephilim Giants of Gaza), we too if we remain faithful to God and His Word can defeat whatever the enemy brings our direction”.

Doesn't sound like an Israeli surrender is imminent!
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 14 October 2017 11:35:13 AM
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Hindus will run a horse.
" Kalki (Devanagari: lit. "destroyer of filth") is the nemesis of demon Kali and the tenth avatar of Vishnu, foretold to appear at the end of Kali Yuga, the current epoch. The Purana scriptures foretell that Kalki will be atop a white horse with a drawn blazing sword."

"Al-Buraq (Arabic: "lightning") is a steed in Islamic mythology,. Most notably Buraq carried the Islamic prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Jerusalem and back. According to Encyclopædia Iranica, "Boraq" is the Arabized form of "Middle Persian *barag 'a riding beast, mount' (New Pers. bara)".
Buraq:
Then he [Gabriel] brought the Buraq, handsome-faced and bridled, a tall, white beast, bigger than the donkey but smaller than the mule. . He had long ears.
He bucked when Muhammad came to mount him. The angel Jibril (Gabriel) put his hand on his mane and said: "Are you not ashamed, O Buraq? By Allah, no-one has ridden you in all creation more dear to Allah than he is " . He stood still so that the Prophet mounted him."

Isa and Muhammad fight Messiah after the Vishnu conflict. Then Shi-a and Sunni slog it out with IS when Kali and Dajjal are trashed . Pauline Hanson has a go.

"Jesus’ true name, according to the Qur’an, was ‘Isa. His message was pure Islam, surrender to Allah.
‘Isa the destroyer of Christianity.
The prophet ‘Isa will have an important role in the end times, establishing Islam and making war until he destroys all religions save Islam. He shall kill the Evil One (Dajjal), "
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 14 October 2017 12:39:55 PM
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And old nick shone a beam of whimsical light for diver to escape from the mental prison he had locked his remaining mind in?

Only to be thwarted by that evil genius old nick, who turned the power off when he was halfway down the beam and thirty flights of fancy, up.

And as Diver dived toward terminal velocity? He could be heard to call out as he passed each floor. So far so good.

Even as dementia personified, old nick proclaimed, it's not the fall that hurts, just the sudden stop at the bottom?

Yes, but whose bottom, replied diver, and you know full well I'm not a back door operator!? I'm just not into crap!

And then, sh!te, mind the top step mate, she's a beaut!

And as the massive, race card day crowd collected, a belligerent keystone clodhopper cop shouldered his way through the crowd, looked down at the splattered diver, and asked, neigh demanded, what in blue blazes is going on here?

Beats me, wheezed the (first past the post) winded diver, I've only just got here!

You'll have a nice day now y'hear.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 16 October 2017 10:35:00 AM
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This is serious. Currently, India's nuclear power reactors consume, at most, 478 tonnes of uranium per year . World present-day reactors require about 70,000 metric tons of natural uranium a year.
The Apsara research reactor is named for heavenly dancers for Indra . Agni Missiles are long range, nuclear weapons of India. In the Vedic literature, Agni the fire of the sun is a major and oft invoked god along with Indra . As uranium is split into energy and the weight is lost from the earth then the planet becomes lighter and loses angular Momentum , gravitating into the sun . Indra is also a sun god and warrior . Moving the planet into the sun will raise summer temperatures a bit and also winter . It's Einstein's fault .
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 16 October 2017 11:40:58 AM
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