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Australia Day deserves to stay : Comments

By Charles Smith, published 2/10/2017

Newcomers are unlikely to join our national community and adopt our culture if we keep telling them that our country has very little of which to be proud.

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So what's this then stupid?
http://refusefascism.org/an-emergency-organizing-meeting/

What's so special about November 4?
100yr anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution you stupid ignorant commie-loving progressive imbecile.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 3:13:57 PM
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Not much to inspire in those posts.
Federation Day is a day for politicians as a new parliament was
installed as we already had six parliaments and governments.

The day the first fleet arrived was for all, aborigines especially,
the biggest event in 60,000 years !

Tell me what was a bigger event ?
Did aliens arrive from remote star systems sometime in the past? No ?

Other tribes told us of big canoes in the bay to the south.
They were like the one that was there 18 summers ago.
Then a smaller canoe arrived in our harbour and after a quick look
around went back to the south bay.

White skinned men wearing strange skins of white and blue arrived in
the most enormous canoes ever seen.
They came onto the beach in smaller canoes and put up a strange
thing of several colours and the one who was their senior elder
made a speech to everyone there and then some of them pointed their
long clubs into the air and with a loud noise and fire they all called
out three times.

That was really something, I wonder what it means ?
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 3:15:46 PM
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Looks like somebody's a bit triggered...
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 3:23:34 PM
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“We should stop pretending that the relatively peaceful colonisation of Australia at the hands of the British makes the country uniquely tainted or that erasing monumental events from our national calendar will somehow change the past.”

Good god this bloke is a pig-ignorant piece of work. My state Victoria was settled relatively late in the piece and entire aboriginal populations were gone within a generation. Massacres, poisonings and neglect. The extensive language groups that existed across our Western Districts disappeared in the blink of an eye. There are many things we have to be proud of in this country but our violent, genocidal colonisation is not one of them. Acknowledge it, respect the attitudes of those who feel the pain of it and just bloody quit trying to rewrite the its history.

Changing a date that has only relatively recently been solidified as a national day is not a big thing especially if it brings us more together as a nation.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 6:11:04 PM
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On Jan 26, 1788, was largely uneventful. Not one aboriginal was hurt or abused in any way and the landing of the first fleet was largely uneventful. The importance of day lies solely in it being a turning point in the history of Australia which is why it was chosen as Australia day.

The attack on Australia day is not against what occurred on that day, but an attack on the very existence of present-day Australia, by rent-seeking Aboriginals and self-loathing left whingers addicted to identity politics and virtue gesturing.

That through the lens of modern-day standards, the original treatment of the indigenous population was harsh, the reality is that the life of aboriginals prior to 1788 was short, violent, and largely wretched, and if Aus had been colonised by any other nationality their outcome would likely have been far worse.

Jan 26th was only formalised as Australia day in 1994 but was celebrated as far back as 1808 and is far more meaningful than the left whinge sycophants make out.

The issue could be easily resolved with a plebiscite attached to the next federal election.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 7:00:10 AM
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Shadow Minister states “The importance of [Australia] day lies solely in it being a turning point in the history of Australia which is why it was chosen as Australia day. The day itself in 1788 was pretty banal one and the celebrations around it always ignored atrocities that happened to many Aboriginal peoples around the nation. It was (and for many, still is) a celebration of peaceful colonisation…a concept that was a mythical creation of white males bent on presenting a master narrative that venerated the white colonists/invaders as heroic for being able to conquer and tame the ‘wild country’.
“The attack on Australia day is not against what occurred on that day, but an attack on the very existence of present-day Australia, by rent-seeking Aboriginals and self-loathing left whingers…” What load of unmitigated rubbish. I don’t agree with Australia Day on the current date as I know what it represents…massacres, rapes, torture, kidnapping, theft of lands, slavery and more. And it isn’t even the correct date of when the British landed or officially took possession, without permission, of the east coast. By the way SM, what are ‘rent-seeking Aboriginals…’?

‘…the reality is that the life of aboriginals (sic) prior to 1788 was short, violent, and largely wretched, and if Aus had been colonised by any other nationality their outcome would likely have been far worse.’ No evidence presented to substantiate any of it. Cook’s description of Aborigines was that they led far happier, contented and prosperous lives than Europeans. Watkin Tench described Aboriginal people as living a simple but good life (until the arrival of over 1000 Europeans wrecked things for them anyway). The experiences of many other colonised countries shows that treaties were often reached…never happened in ‘Aus’.
Posted by minotaur, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 9:11:11 AM
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