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Trump 1, black footballers 10 : Comments

By Peter West, published 29/9/2017

Their method is crude, but they are men of action and very few words. And their actions are eloquent.

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The issue is, why? Inequality stance by men (no women) all on million dollar contracts! Come on! NFL attendance is falling through the floor, sponsors are pulling their money out. One team has even tried to discipline one of their players who came out and stood, Alejandro Villanueva an ex-army Ranger defied the coach. The sales of his Jerseys have gone through the roof. The owners are starting to wakeup.
Posted by Jon R, Friday, 29 September 2017 8:54:38 AM
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West has his opinion, I have mine - disloyal scumbags the lot of them! Three cheers for for Trump.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 29 September 2017 9:35:13 AM
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Well, both Trump's position as genuinely caring parent and those of kneeling black activist have merit!

I would urge all folk, wherever they live, to pay real respect, homage and honor to the flag and its representation of conflict and various fights for freedom and equal rights! With as much, hand on heart, heartfelt demonstrable respect as kneeling before it as a hymn or national anthem is sung?

And a matter of personal choice and the very freedom so many folk have already made the ultimate sacrifice to preserve, Donald.

Me? I kneel for nobody and believe a man dies on his feet. Bowed but not yet broken! Fighting for a just cause by choice! Rather than dying on your knees as some kind of professional, black armband, victim/history revisionist!?

These folk need to take a good long hard look at themselves! Their dubious records as caring responsible parents and parental role models! And the sheer volume of black kids raised by deserted single moms! And the number/volume of black deaths by armed black gunmen!

It's so easy to blame everybody else/anybody else!

Yes to peaceful protest as opposed to riots that just create more victims, more hate and division!

Then just get over themselves and moribund vanity Donald! Time to let loose the inner statesman and unite a divided people!

Still waiting!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 29 September 2017 10:42:35 AM
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This author exemplifies the great divide, which has opened up in this country. Peter; one of the badly misguided on the wrong side, camping with the gay rights activists, and other assorted anarchists!

Could I suggest, too comfortable in life to really understand or care, for the position of the oppositional view!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 29 September 2017 10:53:22 AM
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These men are traitors to their country and should find another country to move to! If NFL will not remove these ungrateful peoples then Trump should fix matters!
Posted by Diedrich, Friday, 29 September 2017 10:54:36 AM
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West just doesn't get it.

Paul Craig Robert explains the reality here:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/09/28/patriotism-two-edged-sword/

Here is anothe little bit of magic from the ever astute James Howard Kunstler (former Rolling Stone magazine author):

"There’s a lot to complain about in this deranged republic — if it even still is one — but the burdens of being a multimillionaire football player would not be at the top of my list. Personally, I find it a little peculiar that we have to play the national anthem before any sporting event. All it really shows is how insecure we are as a nation that we have to display our love of country in this obsessive manner. Same with congressmen and their stupid flag lapel pins, or the flag in front of Denny’s chain restaurants. Are eaters of the “lumberjack slam” so disoriented when they leave the place that they need to be reminded what country they’re in? “Oh, look hon, were in the USA after all….”

What burns my ar.e is seeing baseball players in camo uniforms, as if they were an extension of the US military. What’s up with that? Is San Diego suddenly a theater of war? And why do US soldiers need to wear camo uniforms when shopping for eyeglasses? There used to be a distinction between battle dress and what you wore the rest of the time, even during a world war. And why on earth is it necessary to fly Air Force fighter jets over the stadium before the Super Bowl? Who authorizes the spend for that? Who are we trying to scare?"

Ridiculous post by the author and ridiculous conclusions
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Friday, 29 September 2017 12:32:05 PM
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Hey guys I do believe we're talking about the USA. Not the Grand Final in sunny Sydney.

There isn't any mention of Aussie footy anywhere in the article, I think. Maybe I should have read between the lines.
Well the facts of Trump and his attacks on one side; and black deaths in jail and on the street, on the other, are pretty strong and simple. That's the issue. Why did Trump open this can of worms? He doesn't seem to be getting anywhere with his repeal of Obamacare and other issues he spoke of. Or maybe that Great Wall is still a-building.
Posted by Waverley, Friday, 29 September 2017 3:50:36 PM
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such a shame that many are brought up to think that because of the colour of their skin they are better than others. In the case of these footballers its obvious they have great character deficiencies. Maybe they had no proper male role models. Just a thought.
Posted by runner, Friday, 29 September 2017 4:13:04 PM
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The protest seems to be building, even though the US is sharply divided on the issue by race, colour and age. See The Guardian's comments on racial protest.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/25/taking-a-knee-donald-trump-new-era-total-protest-nfl
Posted by Waverley, Saturday, 30 September 2017 5:52:17 AM
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It's not skin color that makes a man superior to his contemporaries, rather the content of his character!

Moreover, there is not a black way nor a white way! Just a right way!

At the end of the day, crime and associated violence, seems more prevalent in impoverished societies? And regardless of race, color or creed!

And something decent caring Christians, be they black, white or brindle, can actually do something about!

But only if they want to! And then only by listening to and being guided by, their better angels and the parable of the, [non judgmental,] good samaritan/gentile?

As opposed to greed driven/control freak hypocrites, merely giving lip service to, cherry picked, Christian/holy book philosophy!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 30 September 2017 10:12:14 AM
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Skin colour, race, culture and all sorts of human differences come into play in our lives, and it is naive to deny that, just as it is naive to deny to that most people prefer to be around people just like themselves. That's why multiculturalism will never work.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 30 September 2017 10:25:08 AM
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Differences are largely cultural and customary, rather than anything real and of substance.

One only need see little kids playing together, without all the, yet to set, inculcated brainwashing impacting on attitudes.

At the end of the day, we can control just one thing! And that is the thoughts we care to entertain or habour in our minds, and through them all our attitudes!

Think, there is great power there!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 30 September 2017 9:18:29 PM
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Well if I was black, and afraid to walk down the street because a cop said "We only shoot black people"- I would be very afraid too. Footballers have started a conversation. It's tough being young black male in USA. Don't know why most of them don't try to move to Canada.
Posted by Waverley, Sunday, 1 October 2017 6:19:09 AM
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Waverley

A good reason blacks do not flee across the border to Canada, is due in part at least, to black hate groups such as these footballers, the new black panther, being largely unwelcome!

Assimilation is not their aim. Disruption is their aim. Furthering the Pan-African non assimilation policies is their goal. These are anarchists of the first order.

They should actually migrate to Russia, from whence their ideology originated!
But in Russia, even post uncle Joe Russia, currently would not tolerate their rebellious anti social behaviour.
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 1 October 2017 9:55:52 AM
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It's quite surprising how many cops in america are black.

As for being afraid, trying being a white Australian lady reporting an apparent rape and leaning in the widow of a responding police car, manned by whites? One of who just happened to be an arab migrant of Muslim faith?

It's not part of police training anywhere in the world to attend a possible crime, with weapons unholstered, loaded and cocked!?

And if confirmed as an armed crime? Even as weapons are locked and loaded. They remain in holster, even with a hand on them!?

And then drawn if you actually really do intend to use them!

Locked means the safety remains on!

Meaning it can be made ready as safety off, minus the usual noise!

One has to wonder, what thought process proceed riots, crimes of violence and police brutality? It has long been my contention, that one nearly always catches more flies, with a teaspoon of honey than a whole jar of vinegar!

If the solution is migrate somewhere else? Then the problem not only remains in situ and unresolved! But may be transferred to the host nation?

As exampled by the hitherto unknown Cronulla riots? Or the aftermath of allowing a flood tide of Middle East migrants resettling in Europe, with the subsequent mass sexual assaults on German women. And only made possible by inculcated from birth, attitudes!

And then only supported by the thoughts we CHOOSE to entertain in our minds!

As reportedly exampled by a leading Flat Earth Society member, having the vision of his own eyes supplied by Bramston and a free ride into orbit, reboot his belief system?

Decided that the graphics and the motion control was rather realistic! And almost on a par with the moon landing fakery?

Perhaps next time Mr Bramston should ask him to take a, [would you care to step outside the vehicle,] leap of faith?

And rioting blacks offered a one way ticket to Zimbabwe? Disaffected Muslims offered a one way ticket to the Muslim nation of their choice?

Have I missed anyone?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 1 October 2017 10:29:27 AM
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