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Other people’s money : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 25/9/2017

Politicians pretending to be compassionate when all they are doing is handing out other people’s money are just thieves masquerading as angels.

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Well, the cat is well and truly out of the bag! Leyonhjelm has exposed himself as having no concept of community or commonwealth. He is a self proclaimed promoter of small government that would not collect taxes because doing so is theft. The poor will be left to starve, the rich would be left to accumulate more and more and society would be unrecognisable from what we now experience. And all because of the idea of the immorality of spending other people's money. This is about as right wing as you can get
Posted by Sells, Monday, 25 September 2017 1:55:33 PM
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Dear Peter,

«And all because of the idea of the immorality of spending other people's money.»

You must be referring to my comment rather than to the author, because Leyonhjelm never mentioned even a word on morality or immorality - he only discussed inefficiency.

Well, if done without consent then it is not only immoral, but it also goes against the eighth commandment.

It is quite possible to have a legitimate community and to spend other people's money without breaking the eighth commandment: all it takes is to allow individuals to opt out of paying tax.

I believe that since people are essentially good, only very few will opt out and the resulting budget-deficit will not be significant - consider both the sense of community and the great spiritual advantage once people are allowed to express the goodness of their heart by paying their taxes voluntarily!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 25 September 2017 2:36:29 PM
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Talk about snouts in the public money trough of spending other peoples money.
A quick search reveals that the good senator owns his own property in Canberra and that he also claims the very generous $273 overnight allowance when he stays in Canberra for parliamentary business.
I wouldnt be at all surprised if he has also used all of the various tax breaks for people who own or buy properties, including (possibly) the first home-owners grant.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Monday, 25 September 2017 2:37:25 PM
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Armchair: What I'm proposing is a endlessly reusable MLD. With an electrically fired railgun between the electromagnetic assembly And then utilise the nine tons of repelling force per magnet! To lift the spread weight of the piggyback vehicle.

With friction removing acceleration while still earth bound via an ion drive in the nose cone.

The shuttle reliant on an electrically powered rail gun for that forward acceleration that allows the scramjet to fire up. And could include airlocks vacuums and what have you, as endlessly reusable structures/launch facility?

And if we were ever attacked able to be deployed from relatively safe hidden facility, for retaliatory missions? Several times a day?

An off the grid walk away safe, molten salt thorium reactor central to the base and launch facilities plus fuel creation via catalytically assisted, water molecule cracking.

A small iron drive in the nosecone of the shuttle, would help reduce speed robbing friction. as would titanium oxide ceramic tiles fastened to leading edges.

We could print those tiles on demand. On the base, using electrically powered 3D printers? And much of the rest of the moldable, reusable, recoverable inventory?

Given graphiele is the strongest material in the world and we have a commercially viable, huge, almost pure deposit of the same. A reinforced inner hull could be made of it, then covered with carbon fibre and copper skins, so as to become completely invisible on hostile radar screens.

One could even use landmarks like reinforced lava tubes and or, a remote northern mountain with a near road op one side? Or a vertical tunnel through the middle? As the guided to terminal velocity, semi permanent launch pad?

Or, we could just pick up where with left off in the 80's? Burning OPM. Two or three times a year in typical for both sides of the aisle, penny/cent wise pound/dollar foolish outcomes, one might expect from your local council? Maybe? Rather than alleged national governments!

Do it right and do it once, the first time! Or just don't do it at all!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 25 September 2017 3:59:38 PM
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Armchair, I've looked at videos and PDFs until I'm blue in the face. Some are useful and explanatory! Others just spin from a, 3 trillion a year fossil fuel, big nuclear, opposition? Feeling threatened with elimination?

Type, the case for thorium, into your search engine. Then scroll down the page to an informative, peer reviewed, highly rated, top doc, where the principal presenter, scientist Kirk Sorensen will educate entertain and inform!

Look for the gold stars that tells one, Google has rated it suitable for validated, authoritative, Google tech talks!

That said, beware the alleged nuclear expert, who claims? I intend to authoritatively refute thorium as a fuel in solid fuel reactors?

And almost clever obfuscation, given any proposal to use thorium as solid fuel in conventional reactors, is not made and a nonsense!

Moreover, the net is full to overflowing, with such dubious/BS articles/claims!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 25 September 2017 4:29:47 PM
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Yuyustu. I had some well heeled Canuck friends as a young man, who came over to holiday with us one year. Then halfway through that stay, announced plans to urgently return for their, well worth the extra there and back airfare, for their share of the communal dividend, the government earned as the operator/manager of state operated, social credit enterprise.

And where the state paid surplus to needs income back to the people. i.e., the state paid a tax to the people as it were, from income earning, communal assets and enterprise.

And economic heresy in the land of the dollar bill!

Successful social credit, relies on a relatively small population occupying a relatively large, well resourced land mass! And therefore impossible here!?

As for decent folk, like say Donald, voluntarily paying a fair share of a common burden? Ha, Ha, he, he, ho, ho, ha, ha, he, he. Oh my aching ribs, stop, enough already! You're killing me! Ah, Ha, ha, ha! Trump that!

Q: What did the blind horse say to the one legged jockey?
A: how are you getting on?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 25 September 2017 8:18:11 PM
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