I don't see what all the fuss is about!

Why should anyone take issue with a title, be it Mz, Miss, Missy, Mr, Mister, Minister, Mrs or Lady?

Me, I prefer Mate, Cobber or Alan!

As for Sir, I tend to stand/come to attention, [even if sat,] and salute. Just make a point?

We Aussies just don't stand on ceremony and don't have much time for toffee nosed snobs or Feminazis, who do!

There are a thousand and one things far more important, than precious petals who have their, often autocratic to a fault, feelings hurt? By social conventions of a, new to them, land!?

Or by women who want all the benefits of marriage except the usual social conventions?

I know of third world women who would give their eye teeth to be Mrs somebody/anybody in a land of opportunity.

Time to start counting your garden by the flowers in it, rather than the weeds, Dr!

By the way Dr. If you don't like us and our old fashioned social conventions? You're at perfect liberty to return to your ancestral homeland!
Alan B.

Footnote:
Respect is something one earns! Not something that one is entitled to by dint of an alphabet soup, label!
Alan B.

Sir is sire , "used chiefly of beasts especially stallions".
"In April, the local arm of global banking giant HSBC started offering "Msr", a combination of Miss and Sir."
Their children are Msree as in "employee", or Msrable if a school teacher was Sir, and got no pocket money from the Msers. The Confederate Air Force makes all members Colonel and marriage equality should allow everyone to be Dr.

Nickoffnick, your confusion over sir/sire is understandable for you? Given when you say to your girlfriend. I've got a longun for you babe! Has a number of unusual eye opening elephantitis connotations?

Which possibly explains why you work like a horse? After all, you're built like one? Nay, he haw?
Alan B.

Looks like a donkey vote yes & no. Old French sire " my lord,". Standing alone and meaning "your majesty" . General sense of "important elderly man" is from mid-14c.;
sir , variant of sire, originally used only in unstressed position such as sitting salute , the elephant in the room.

personally I don't think a woman refusing to take her husbands name is worthy of him.

But he that filches from me my good name robs me of that which not enriches him and makes me poor indeed. Some ms take his name and all the gold he's worth and pain persists when she's a doctor.

Dr Evelyn Tsitas,

Congratulations!

Now you know why PhDs on the podium look so confused, seemingly in danger of never finding their seat, let alone their lost life, ever again. However it is better than 'those sinking, overwhelmed feelings' when people asked how the thesis was going.

Maybe a rich cake with PhinisheD on it, share and get ill.
Then Move on, 'Mo'. Get a life, 'GaL'. So, MoGal, gofrit, OT. Travel well.

My cheapo wine-club cartons were mailed to me as "Lord John " as the option was listed on joining. However in future my title will be Life President which is bi-sexual , optimistic and factual.

nicknamenick,

'President'? From the French? PeeCee holds that cultural appropriation is wrong. Scratch that out.

As for 'Life', that is insulting to those who might want to shorten their existence. So, it is definitely not 'Progressive', try death instead. Whereupon you might admit white and man to score extra gender bonus points.

Anyone who gives a toss about 'correct' honorifics has very little to think about in their miserable lives.

runner,

There are a number of cultures in the world where women do not take the name of their husband at marriage, Gaelic people in Ireland and Scotland are an example and many Irish and Scots continue the tradition in other countries; my wife uses her maiden name and we've been married for over 25 years and it's not a question of her being worthy of me but the reverse.

I favour the use of my Christian name rather than my title.

How about forgetting honorifics all together and just using my name? Why does it matter whether I am Miss, or Mrs, or Dr or other? I only fill in this piece of information if it is required, and usually send a message afterwards asking why this is relevant.
It is a jolly good outcome of having a PhD though - almost worth the years of slog to get there :)
Love your thinking...

In the news recently, the fact many students cram for exams! Retain the information for long enough to pass that exam, then lose all memory of it in days?

Which begs the question, what are these letters after a name really worth? And why should one having such titles, believe they ought to be respected?

At the end of the day respect is something most folks would expect to earn. By the quality of their work or contributions/content of their character? And the way they relate to or help others?

I've also passed a few exams. Medicine, law, science. So what?

At the end of the day is how you use that information/qualifications and how helpful you are to others? Rather than, just puffing up a massive superiority complex?
Alan B.

"At the end of the day respect is something most folks would expect to earn"

Don't tell me that a Ph.D. isn't earned; it's hard slog, which is why I don't have one.

The Mise of Inverell.
Dear Inverell
The clan of that ilk scrioss das Sassenachs , ain dirk a' Douglas . Rainig ain bailceach . Sire , there are disputes and bad blood about your chiefly title . Some say ye have two eagle feathers in your clan cap , others demand three . The crofters are massacring and pillaging the tweeds and haggis and only your swift fist of steel will keep the clan living .

your humble and obedient sub-tenant
N

Wah wah wah wah waaaaaaaah.

A doctor who likes to give the "finger to society".

Your request for respect is denied.

I think you're right in that you shouldn't have to be referred to as 'Mrs' if you aren't married.

But I don't know why your husband wanted you in the first place when you wanted to advertise yourself as 'Ms' or that of being single, it doesn't seem like much of a commitment to the partnership or one another really, and that you chose to put other things first before you're marriage namely these 'honorifics' I'm not surprised you eventually got divorced.

But I mean no deliberate offense and wish you well, but I can't help thinking maybe you've got 'daddy issues' or something...

The others made good points and it seems like you are making too much out of nothing, but if this is important to you, and your doctorate was earned fairly for creative writing, then I won't judge.
Good luck to you.

Every now and again I'll rethink things..
This is one of those occasions Evelyn.
I'm sorry if I was too harsh.

Upon rethink.

Miss = Advertising that a young woman is 'Unmarried' and can be approached by a man with a view to groom for marriage
Mrs = 'Already Married' (considered off bounds)
Ms = 'Spinster', 'Previously Married', etc.

A man is just 'Master' or 'Mr' with no changes whether he's married or not.
Maybe you have a point,
Maybe as a man I think you're making too much of it;
- But maybe you do have a point.