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Same-sex marriage legislation must protect conscientious objectors : Comments

By Greg Walsh, published 21/8/2017

The right to equality is a broad right that protects a range of different grounds including the grounds of religion and political opinion.

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Conscientious objectors have a right to not be compelled to do the thing they object to. In this case marrying someone of the same sex.
They DO NOT have the right to stop anyone else from participating in the thing they object to.
Your whole argument fails, and makes you look like a bit of a prat, when you framed it as "conscientious objectors".
One more misleading and perfidious attempt to justify hatred and bigotry.

If your job or business involves facilitating marriage or weddings then your religious beliefs have nothing to do with it. Can these people/businesses discriminate against adulterers, women having their periods, athiests? Whats the difference?

Keep your sick and insane beliefs to yourself and keep your noses out of other peoples private lives.
Sheesh how many times do you godbotherers, and dont pretend you arent one, have to be told.
Believe any super fairy, pigs flying, fag hating nonsense you want just keep it to yourself.
Posted by mikk, Monday, 21 August 2017 3:05:00 PM
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I'm bored stiff by the whole thing. I'm voting no, and I'll be very disappointed if SSM becomes legal. Still, just about everything Australian is disappointing since the Left has been in charge - and, make no mistake, even when the Coalition has been on government benches, the Left has been calling the tune. Now, the Coalition is just another version of the Labor Party.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 21 August 2017 4:12:51 PM
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AlanB,

You should try to stay sober until you have finished posting.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 21 August 2017 4:13:59 PM
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Dear Mikk,

«Can these people/businesses discriminate against adulterers, women having their periods, athiests? Whats the difference?»

No difference whatsoever. Nobody should ever be forced to provide a service to another, whether for a good reason; a bad reason; or even for no reason at all.

While I would detest such [hypothetical] discrimination, I would die to protect the absolute rights of any such fool to serve only those s/he chooses to.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 21 August 2017 4:47:30 PM
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If the total troll being nasty (ttbn) is so disappointed in Australia then s/he should emigrate. There are many backward and medieval middle-eastern countries who would welcome such bigotry and backward beliefs.

I am a little surprised that ttbn and others of the same thinking aren't still campaigning against women and Aboriginal people having voting rights in elections. Or demanding women get out of the workforce and return to the kitchen where they belong...let alone being allowed to drive a vehicle!
Posted by minotaur, Monday, 21 August 2017 4:48:32 PM
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You misread me Minotaur, was essentially saying what Mikk was saying. If you don't want to do something, fight go to war or anything that you object to on personal moral grounds! Just don't do it!

[Even so, that didn't stop popes who claimed to be infallible, charging at the head of invading, warmongering armies and putting disbelievers to the sword! And in so doing, breaking the central, thou shalt not kill edict, of the so called "Holy" Church.]

And then speaking for God, claiming a divine right to prohibit people born different, from following their natural instincts or being conceded the very rights, we also God created normals, take as our God given right!

Clearly you'll have a right to say no to any and all personal involvement! But absolutely, no right whatsoever, to trample roughshod over the rights of others!

And they have an absolute right to call you to account for claiming a self proclaimed divine right to deny them the very rights you accept for yourself!

Particularly if their private lives are none of your or my business!

And let's be clear, I'm a normal straight bloke with children and grandkids and I'll be voting YES! And not before flaming time!

ttbn, don't drink mate! Just trying a little horizontal levity, which in the case of the challenged homophobes? Seems to have gone right over the top without parting the hair?

If a gentle kind Jesus walked among us today, with his preference for male company and still unmarried at 33, many of the alleged christians sitting in judgement, would judge him gay!

And nail him to an allegorical cross if you could, just by denying him the same rights, plus a tiny measure of personal happiness and contentment, as you accept as God given, for yourselves!

Do unto others as you would have for yourselves. Quote unquote.

Inasmuch as you do unto the least among you you also do unto me! Quote unquote.

Judge not and you shall not be judged. Quote unquote.

All you concerned Christians, have a nice day now y'hear.
Alan B
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 21 August 2017 5:33:43 PM
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