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Syria: a testament to international moral bankruptcy : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 18/8/2017

What happened to the sentiment of 'never again' that was universally embraced in the wake of World War II to prevent calamities such as this from occurring?

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Alon Ben-Meir here basically is pushing blatant lies regarding what is behind the current war in Syria which the Zionist State of Occupied Palestine and the US military industrial complex especially would like believed. However, many who have kept an eye on developments from news sources other than those originating from the strongly Zionist influenced Western Mainstream media think the Russians, Iranians and Hezbellah have been doing a good job helping the legitimate government of Syria, led By Bashar Al-Assad who is obviously very popular with his own people get rid of terrorists sponsored by foreign powers, particularly the US.

The real testament to international moral bankruptcy is western interests covertly supporting terrorists to try and install puppets and stooges in power in Syria and/or make it a failed state so their banksters and corporations can largely take control. Note Syria is one of the few countries whose central bank is not controlled by Rothschilds. However, the main agenda is that western interests want to construct a gas pipeline south-north across Syria so Qatari gas can be sent to Europe, taking market share from Russia. Syrians favour an east-west pipeline to facilitate gas from the Northern end of the same field in Iran to capture this market instead. Note there are very powerful corporations and billionaires who are morally bankrupt and do not care about causing major destruction in Syria and killing and injuring hundreds of thousands of people to try and fulfil their own selfish wants. Fortunately their efforts are failing and agenda has become widely exposed.
Posted by mox, Friday, 18 August 2017 12:35:25 PM
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Let Syria stand as a testament to what happens when the US decides against being the policeman. Bad things happen when the US (and its allies) get involved. Worse things happen when it decides to remain uninvolved.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 18 August 2017 5:02:08 PM
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Why should the blame fall on a divided international community, when in fact it has been Russian and Chinese vetoes alone, that have effectively kept the diabolically dastardly Damascus Dictator in power and free to mass murder at will, all who stand in his way!

And on a scale not seen since the Holocaust!

Perhaps it's time for a principled stand/a flagged red line that can't be crossed! And not without forewarning?

And send a tactical nuclear weapon gift wrapped and delivered by a cruise missile right onto his lap, with the remonstrating Dictators offered similar gifts as deserved reward for their obstructionist tactics!?

If we are going to have a no other choice, WW111? Because that's is what it might take to end this conflict!?

Let it at least be at a time and place of our choosing rather than later, with us the (would you like fries with that?) sacrificial roast lamb on the menu?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 18 August 2017 5:17:47 PM
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Most who experienced ww2 and what really brought it about are gone now. So yes it's forgotten.

As for Syria. Yes it's dreadful. Troubles me that we're involved in what's going on there.
Although I did read something that sounded positive some days back. Something about the CIA ending salary payments to Syrian rebel groups after Trump and Putin met.
Posted by jamo, Saturday, 19 August 2017 2:41:18 AM
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jamo

Yes, Trump also overruled a Republican party platform endorsing the continuation of arms shipments to the Ukraine forces that overthrew its democratically elected government.

Anyone see a pattern here? Or should I say a chicken and an egg?
Posted by Killarney, Saturday, 19 August 2017 5:29:18 PM
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No one goes to war unless there's a buck in it.
Australians are sent into a theatre of war by its politicians, at the behest of a major power, so as to be inclusive and united in policy.
But the politicians aren't those getting shot and maimed.

The last time Australia was seemingly being threatened was by the Japanese while Australian forces were off fighting in Africa and Europe

The 'never again' turned into 'more frequently' in Korea and Vietnam, with Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria, being the latest excursions.

What ever happened to be neutral, or do we actually believe that our involvement and presence is more than token flag waving.
Are we that desperate to be noticed that we contribute mindlessly to failed ventures and be seen to be nothing more than US lackeys by the world at large.
If Australia is so desperate to be seen as warriors then we should make our own weapons at least, and not be in such a hurry to buy someone elses and, pay through the nose for the privilege.
Posted by ilmessaggio, Saturday, 19 August 2017 7:20:34 PM
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Misleading and totalally uninformed garbage.
Note to author: Please do not attempt to use my own conscience to sway my opinion or sell me your own opinion and agenda, especially when you don't even seem to have a real understanding of what is going on there.

If you really want to write a great article, then what you should do is some REAL investigating, like hearing more accurate accounts of the situation (I suggest Vanessa Beeley, Tulsi Gabbard for starters)and follow the arms and money of who is paying for this war.

What are you really doing about it?
You can't even get basic facts right.

To everyone: Assad and his SAA most certainly are destroying ISIS and the Jihadi's, look up Syria war map for a daily account.
I think the address is http://syria.liveuamap.com/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 20 August 2017 8:41:07 AM
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As for the commentors:
mox gets a tick and a bonus point for mentioning the Qatari pipeline.

mhaze gets a tick for his effort.

Alan B unfortunately gets an 'x' and fails on this occasion.
Point 1 - Assad was democratically elected;
Point 2 - This war is not a civil war but one that involves numerous foreign states.

jamo gets a tick and a bonus point for mentioning Trump cutting off CIA salary payments (and arms shipments) to so-called Syrian rebels.

Killarney gets a tick and also a bonus point for mentioning Ukraine.
- Some points to note here is that it was Soros and the Obama Admisitration that overthrow Yanukovich in the Maidan, and Republican Senator John McCain head of the Senate Armed Services Committee (and an investor in Ratheon) also supports all these wars.
I'm not exactly sure what she means by patterns and a chicken and an egg thing, but if she is implying that the warmongering is bi-partisan and that Trump is the only one who seems to be making the right decisions then I'd have to say thats a truly standout effort by a self-confessed feminist.
That is if I understand what she was implying correctly.

Ilmessagio gets a tick and maybe a special mention for pointing out the cost of not developing our own weapons if we are buying them anyway.
It's an interesting topic, do we really want to become a war machine?Personally I think we should consider arms purchases from Russia.

Alan c'mon mate, you've dropped the ball, and I know it's because of your bias towards those 'bastard commies'.
USSR fell 20yrs ago, didn't you get the memo?
Putin may not be perfect, but the US is the warmonger.

It's a positive to see everyone else is reasonably well-informed, despite the medias attempt to mislead the general public on this topic.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 20 August 2017 9:37:57 AM
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Assard democratically elected?

Hands up all those who want to keep a mass murdering/election rigging dictator, supported by another election rigging expansionist "elected" tyrant! Ha ha, ha, he, he, he, ho, ho, ho, Bah humbug!

XXX and fail for any semblance of accuracy AC! I mean in comparable terms even nutters like Herr hitler and or Stalin were elected initially!

That latter going on to murder more of his fellow Russian citizens (25+ million) than those lost in WW11! And consequently the principal role model for an admiring Putin!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 20 August 2017 12:15:29 PM
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well since we're playing the 'hands up game'
Hands up if you think all of this today began with Bush invading Iraq
Hands up if you think Bush, Blair and Co should have to attone for their wanton destruction of Iraq
Hands up if you believe Syria is none of our business
Hands up if you believe our troops are for Australia's defence and not used for wars of opportunity instigated by other countries.
Hands up if you believe Australia should wage a war against a country because we don't like their elected leader
Hands up if you think Australia should learn to stand on it's own

we could go on forever if peoples arms weren't getting tired
Posted by ilmessaggio, Sunday, 20 August 2017 6:36:56 PM
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Was Abbott right? badies against badies with many innocent people affected.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 20 August 2017 7:12:23 PM
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Armchair critic

By 'chicken and egg', I meant the author is arguing that only the US can save Syria, when the US via its proxies and allies actively created the war in the first place.

As for Trump, it's hard to get a handle on what he is trying to do. This is compounded by an extremely hostile media that is using his vulgar machismo to discredit what appears to be a significant departure from US imperial policy. Sure, he does the vulgar machismo thing in threatening to bomb North Korea and Venezuela back to the stone age. But then, he shows admirable shrewdness in actively cutting off the scandalous US practice of arming and financing proxy rebels in US regime-change targeted countries.

I honestly don't know what he's up to. He's unpredictable, but I can see he's no fool. Being a 'self-confessed feminist' does not preclude me from keeping an open mind.
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 21 August 2017 12:34:48 AM
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Hey Alan B,
Don't be mad...
So what are you saying democracy isn't much chop?
It has its pro's and con's I guess...

Hey Killarney,
'Hard to get a handle on what Trump's trying to do'.
- Agreed.

You know for a feminist you somtimes surprise me with how cluey and informed you are, it's kind of confusing.
Nice work.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 21 August 2017 3:48:30 AM
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Read the history.
This all started when Mohommad died and the wrong successor inherited
the Islamic movement.
They are tribal people who have been fighting their various neighbours
forever.
They are unable to negotiate with honesty because of the Koran.
They are also impossible for others to deal with because the Koran
tells them they are always in the right, Allah says so!

Then to complicate it all they have been marrying their cousins for
some thousands of years and their genome is damaged and it has affected
their intelligence and behaviour.
Look at the various three and four way wars that go on and tell me
that their inbreeding is not a factor.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 21 August 2017 6:03:28 PM
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SAA is close to closing in a second ISIS pocket in their push towards Deir Ezzor.
Unconfirmed reports US coalition forces bombed the SAA in defence of ISIS several days ago.
Whitehouse released chemical weapons report, looks like they will push for Assad to face war crimes or step aside, he's won for now but for the warmongers it aint over.
It's all garbage you know, the US itself kills thousands of innocent civilians all the time in it's neverending wars.
Either the Donald doesn't know what's what, or maybe he's just too close with the Israeli's and Saudi's, plus I think the Generals just tell him what they want him to hear to continue the war agenda.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 6:37:49 PM
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