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School children have a right to discuss their religious beliefs : Comments

By Bill O'Chee, published 3/8/2017

In one document, the Department banned discussing Nelson Mandela's belief in forgiveness because using the words 'blacks' and 'whites' might 'draw unwanted attention to students within the class'.

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Toni Lavis,

<<Qbasic Christianity:
10 PRINT "We can believe everything we read in the Bible because it is written by god."
20 PRINT "We can be sure it is written by god because"
30 GOTO 10>>

That is your cynical circular reasoning attempt to scoff at the reliability of the Bible and what the poster stated.

I find it better to begin with demonstrating that the Bible is a reliable historical document. In that reliable document, it claims in the original documents, 'All Scripture is breathed out by God' (2 Timothy 3:16).

Distinguished Professor of Philosophy, theologian & Christian apologist, Dr J P Moreland, has provided evidence to demonstrate 'The Historicity of the New Testament' at: https://www.bethinking.org/is-the-bible-reliable/the-historicity-of-the-new-testament. The criteria used by Dr Moreland are the same as those used by ancient historians.

Therefore, because an understanding of the content of history is based on probability, we can say that historically it is highly probable that the Bible was theopneustos (breathed out by God).

There is no need to engage in your ridicule by accusing the poster of using circular reasoning when, if we begin with an historical investigation, the Bible is streets ahead of many ancient, secular writings of the biblical era in proving to be authentic. See Dr Moreland's article for the documented evidence.
Posted by OzSpen, Thursday, 7 September 2017 12:26:06 AM
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TheAtheist,

<<There is no dysfunction caused by atheism.>>

That's not what what leading atheist/agnostic Prof Richard Dawkins infers. He stated:

“There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings,” Dawkins said. “I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death.... I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse,” he said (Breitbart, 12 Jan 2016, http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/01/12/professional-atheist-dawkins-says-christianity-bulwark-against-something-worse/.

You claim there is no dysfunction caused by atheism. You'll have a hard time convincing me and the people of the Soviet Union (under Stalin & Lenin), China (under Mao), Vietnam (under Pol Pot), Uganda (under Idi Amin) and the people in Eastern European Communist countries, that atheism is functional and beautiful for community life.

Could you be blind to the consequences of your chosen belief system?
Posted by OzSpen, Thursday, 7 September 2017 1:08:33 AM
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OzSpen,

No amount of historical accuracy in the Bible (and there isn't much) can justify believing the supernatural claims. This is a leap you have not yet justified.

<<In that reliable document, it claims in the original documents, 'All Scripture is breathed out by God' (2 Timothy 3:16).>>

And in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Part 2), Lord Voldemort said, "Only I can live forever."

<<You claim there is no dysfunction caused by atheism. You'll have a hard time convincing me and the people of the Soviet Union (under Stalin & Lenin), China (under Mao), Vietnam (under Pol Pot), Uganda (under Idi Amin) and the people in Eastern European Communist countries, that atheism is functional and beautiful for community life.>>

That was communism - a political ideology. There is nothing within atheism to support what the communists did. This argument is dumb.

<<Could you be blind to the consequences of your chosen belief system?>>

Atheism isn't a belief system, it's position on a single issue.
Posted by AJ Philips, Friday, 8 September 2017 1:28:41 AM
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