Why should America foot the bill for other countries to clean up their carbon pollution.

Let countries be responsible for cleaning up their countries own lifestyles if they are serious about believing this suspect Global warming idea. Why should the American people pay out billions to these people, Who knows is 20years what they will have done with the money once you hand the cheque over.

Trump is right.

Little,

"Unfortunately, he's [Alan B] right that we're in a cooling phase."

Mr B makes two incorrect assertions:
1. That the sun's been in a waning phase since the 1970s. That's wrong because the cycles during the 70s, 80s and early 90s were among the highest recorded.
2. That NASA says that the weaker sun should already be affecting temperatures and since temperatures aren't affected, that proves man's impact. I'd ask Mr B for references to demonstrate his claims but he, alas, has a rather fraught relationship with evidence, facts (and reality).

As with so very much of what Mr B says, his claims are utter rubbish. I'm not sure whether he just makes this up or misunderstands something he reads or hears, but I'm damned sure NASA didn't say what he says they said. That he makes these inane claims is neither here nor there. What gets under my skin is that he, based on his utter misunderstanding of the data, then goes on to verbally assault others who aren't so removed from reality

What you say about Abdussamatov (and many others besides) is true. He does say we are entering a waning phase and that that will result in lower temperatures. But he doesn't say we've been there since the 1970s and he doesn't say the temperatures should have already been falling.

Abdussamatov has been pretty consistent with his predictions since at least the turn of the century. The late John Daly made similar predictions back in the early 1990s. One of the problems I see here is the notion that sunspot activity is like a thermostat with lower numbers quickly resulting in lower temperatures. There's a lot of inertia in the earth's climate and it may take more than one low cycle to cause a noticeable decline in temperatures. The Maunder and Dalton minimums required several weak cycles to reek their havoc. To be fair I think Abdussamatov is basically saying that as well.

1. CSIRO Says CO2 is greening the planet.
2. NASA says Sea Levels falling for 2016 and and 2017.
3. Article in Infowars May 10, 2012 'Group That Admitted Global Warming Threat Still Pushes Same Hoax'
4. Article in the Australian Oct 29, 2016 - This one is important -'Green Campaign Against Australian Coal: Trail leads to John Podesta.'

Read them, then weep.
Then stop spreading your rot.

Armchair Critic

The Australian is not reliable in relation to reporting climate change. Scientists around the world have stated that we must not create new coal mines. It is a matter of science not ideology. To suggest one person has an inordinate influence is far fetched.

Scientists indicate that the Poles are warming at twice the pace of other parts of Earth. Shrubs are beginning to grow in tundra areas, not a good thing as they can slow down cooling in such areas. Already permafrost is thawing at a rapid rate, we do not need greening to help that process. Buildings and roads are slumping in tundra areas where permafrost is thawing in Alaska and Siberia.
Explosive methane pingos creating craters are a new phenomenon, scientists indicate that they display climate warming. 7,000 potential explosive spots have been picked up by satellite photos.

The American Chemical Society has produced a series in relation to greenhouse gases:

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/climatescience/greenhousegases.html

CO2 does pick up and retains warmth and can be shown through experimentation. The article from Infowars has cherry picked comments from ice cores ... it is clearly an article written from an ideological perspective. Chemistry does not provide alternative facts, nor does Physics.

Sea level rise falling in 2016 to March 2017, I believe we are not into 2018; or, more importantly 2046 yet.
But, as an indication of a warming planet; though not sea level rise, is the state of the Arctic Ocean. Sea ice extent levels and volume levels have been going down since 1979, there are daily and yearly variations. Declining ice in the Arctic will not increase sea level but displays continued warming.

If its an actual stated fact that CO2 is greening the planet , then the rest is technical bs.
If sea levels have dropped theres no melt going on worse then new ice being formed, and the whole argument that the sea will rise and was us all away is scaremongering bs.
If you have organisations who's stated aims are to push this line over the last 2 or 3 decades and you can have people exposed and directly implicated in profiting from this created situation, then you have intent, motive and proof of the lie.
You talk about the planet changing, yeah ok, but so what?
Do you think humans are to blame for solar output and the earth axis?
Do you think humans have not endured changes in the earths climate over history?
Can you explain the Peri Reis map shat shows the Antarctic coastline, under 1mile of ice?
You want to know about real people dying for real climate change?
Summer, Autumn, Winter, Spring... Climate change.
And people die, from not being able to afford heating and cooling costs, because rich assholes like explained in the last article conspire to shut our energy production down.
You want to believe in fairies, when people are dying already, but you don't see them, too busy bought and sold on the scaremongering bs.

Heres another point.
Our country doesn't even produce goods anymore and we import everything, and you worried we're causing damage to the environment.
Have you discussed your concerns with China or India or do you just keep buying their stuff and whineging?
Like all the other little do-gooder progressives on their Chinese made tech, or women who blame men for everything, but live in a house built by a man, drive a car probably built mostly by a men and go shopping in building mostly built by men.
They'd have little to nothing if it werent for men building it such bs the whole world is.
We don't even produce the stuff we use, and still were evil?
How did they convince you of such utter garbage?
If you believe we're so harmful to the environment, then the best thing you can do for it to mitigate against the damage you believe us humans are doing is to kill yourself right now, and stop using up the damn oxygen!
The environment wont matter when everything is owned by rich foreign interests and they make the rules and dictate the game and we're all jobless and on welfare.
When your starving and can't feed your keeds the environment is the least of peoples concerns.
All were doing is destroying whats left of a dismal economy and putting ourselves all on welfare.