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Gay marriage not the electoral silver bullet everyone thinks it will be : Comments

By Tim O'Hare, published 30/6/2017

If the Coalition were to bleed a few thousand votes to One Nation over its newfound support for gay marriage, this could mean the difference between holding and not holding marginal seats.

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On the other hand, there is a complete religious institution in full scale melt down from the insidious nature of rampant homosexuality, the Catholic Church. Why would anybody with a brain, support any advance towards more of it, by accepting the lie that gay marriage is an issue of equality.
But they do.
And so the issue of gay marriage is one of radicalism. Aren't we in this country under the threat, (supposedly), from fundamentalist Islamic ideology? Why is the radical homosexual lobbying by this small group, given "credence and clear water" (pun intended) by any major political party.

So in the end, it is a test of Democracy, that we witness such a non important social issue elevated to the status of importance overarching all other issues. There is the real issue!
Which then leads to the point of the article; for Turnbull to accept this issue as fate accompli in the real sense of the word, will I sincerely hope, sink his boat, along with his political party, being branded as truely Labor-Green Lite, by more damning evidence!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 30 June 2017 10:01:04 AM
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The “familiar call” from “mainstream political journalists” is a load of rubbish. Those scribblers don't know what they are talking about, and nobody listens to them. They need to get back to reporting facts and allowing other people, politicians included, to make up their own minds as to what is right or wrong, and what should be done about it. The final arbiters are not media grunts, but every day voters.

The idea that the Liberal party should be bothering itself with SSM and other minor deviations from common sense and real life is ridiculous. Pyne's latest gaffe is ridiculous. Leave such trivial trash to the weirdo parties to kick around, and see how much support they get.

As it now stands, the Liberal party has trashed itself, and removed choice from about half the population. No self-respecting conservative would vote for it. Mind you, there are plenty of people out their without any self-respect, so the death of the Liberals is probably not as imminent has some predict; it takes a long time for things to sink into the brains of average Australians, who think it is something commendable to be disinterested in politics.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 30 June 2017 10:06:18 AM
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I've probably read less persuasive, patent partisan propaganda from the far right, but can't remember when!

If Malcolm Turnbull has a problem now or at the next election?

Then it will be because of the vexatious mischief making of the Abbott/Newman camp and their born to rule mindset!?

Newman and Abbott both at the helm of one election win as their principal claim to fame along with a host of politically unpalatable ideas/broken promises!

As for reversing a policy, when has a political promise not been a non core promise able to be back flipped on when and if political expediency demanded it?

In any event, the next election will indubitably be a plebiscite on marriage equality and come into play in more than a dozen critical marginal conservative seats.

And a shame really because Labor are bereft of as much as a single worthwhile nation building idea, will run up the deficit, and spend like a drunken sailor, trying to shore up support?

I believe Tony Abbott needs to be disendorsed/forced to seek shelter with the likes of Cory Bernard and take his chances with the electorate!

It's my view that the conservatives, who just don't get why they are so on the nose, could cost the coalition any prospect of winning the next election!

Therefore the only doable remedy for this divided rabble is a divorce, which will ensure the conservative element spends its remaining time, in the political wilderness, along with the also bitterly divided democrats and defunct Dodos.

And essential if the liberal party is to survive as a party of the genuine middle! Or ever win another election! How can you govern a nation when you can't even govern the party!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 30 June 2017 10:22:19 AM
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the Christophobe bigots are really afraid of a vote as their conduct can be seen by the way they have treated Margaret Court, prevented peaceful meetings from taking place and have had their child grooming (safe schools) program uncovered. On top of this the number of homosexual priests that have offended against kids should alert the public. Instead the getup clowns want to deny the public a vote.
Posted by runner, Friday, 30 June 2017 10:32:17 AM
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Ttbn.

I respect your thinking on most issues, this one included.
Your view here on the influence of the MSM in the political debate, is clear and agreeable.
I'm personally excited with a Trump USA . finally it is under strong and open leadership. His view of the MSM is exquisitely honest and very relevant.

Turnbull should take note: And also take note for the good of his political career and the Coalition, of the diplomatic snubs towards him from Trump. Trump (by past evidence), sees Turnbull as most Australians observe him, weak, self interested and unreliable.
The new political direction for Australia should follow the Phillipines, US and the Russian under Putin example, of raising the middle finger to outside influence on its leadership.

If that happens at a party level; observed now in the Liberal ructions under Abbott, new and stronger leadership can thrive for the actual good of Australia.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 30 June 2017 10:43:26 AM
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It matters not what (stuck in the stone age) "Islamic homophobes" think, do or say!

The overwhelming christian majority view will win the day, either when a binding plebiscite is proposed or at the next election, where the results will speak volumes about real community values and or the level of acceptable discrimination for a, God given accident of birth!

Even formerly bitterly opposed Christian clerics have looked at the emerging DNA/genetic evidence and have been forced to recant formerly irreversible views! If God didn't create this DNA/genetic anomaly/aberration?

Then pray tell who did? Or are you saying there is no Creator, nor divine purpose? Or that he/she makes mistakes?

Or are you unable to change your brainwashed mind, even in the face or irrevocable overwhelming reported/published scientific evidence there for anyone who wants to, can look at and see! Even here, chapter and verse, in earlier versions of OLO!

There are none so blind! And, cast not your pearls!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 30 June 2017 11:42:05 AM
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