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Party discipline - and democracy : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 30/6/2017

This article puts forward a simple thesis. The expectation that the elected members of a party toe their party line is the complete antithesis of democracy.

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The sooner political parties are declared illegal the better!!
Posted by ateday, Friday, 30 June 2017 6:56:52 PM
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The whole point of parties is that a group of like-minded politicians group together to vote in a block to enhance their effectiveness. This also benefits voters in that there is a party with a clear set of ideals and the power to achieve them.

Rhiannon, she was free to speak out about her opinions but to actively start campaigning against the party position without giving them any notice was not OK.

Also, the liberal party position that has been voted on is to go with a plebiscite and Pyne, who is in the cabinet, was caught on tape essentially declaring that the agreed on position would be ditched.

P.S. The last polling on Brexit that I saw was firmly for Brexit.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 2 July 2017 6:19:10 AM
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The citizen in a parliamentary democracy has abrogated ALL personal decision-making in the polity, EXCEPT for the every-so-often marker of an election, where we are asked to express a general satisfaction/dissatisfaction.

In the meantime politicians and bureaucrats make compromised decisions largely in secret. In fact it is secrecy they demand, and lies abound. Deception is the coin of the realm.

A "clear set of ideals"? Hmmm, not usually, as how often has pre-election promise and post(in power)-election decision been not the same? Common I would say. And "ideals", what is this? When is a prejudice or preconception not an ideal?
Posted by Eric the Red-ish, Sunday, 2 July 2017 5:31:44 PM
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