In the latter part of the 20th & early 21st centuries, the Australian governments under ALP & LNP policies, practised detention of 'irregular arrivals' in gulags built by local residents paid pittances while ex pats arrived to effect the same works, being paid astronomic amounts staying in air conditioned luxury. After that national government's highest court determined the gulags and their inmates were unlawful, the inmates were then freed & allowed to wander the communities who then suffered at the hands of these "peace seeking 'refugees'...". Thefts, attacks on members of the Lombrum, Papitali, Mokerang, Lorengau, Loniu communities, sexual assaults of young girls, boys..the list goes on. The news agencies are gagged by the same mechanics implemented by Fuhrer Abbott who "stopped the boats". In fact the boats still turn up at Ashmore Reef, East Arnhem Land & get within landfall of our coast all too regularly.

Australians are being fed a constant diet of B~S and do not see the smokescreen in front of their faces. Small wonder Manusians are taking pot shots at the Lombrum Centre, the object of their betrayal and the continuing patronising policies of Wantok Australia.

Hi Dan,

Curse those posting rules !

Yes, probably until twenty or thirty years ago. Yes, I remember the September 1951 Referendum to ban the Communist Party fondly. My brother and I got a potato cut it in two and carved "ON" [with a backward 'N', we were feral but we weren't illiterate] on each half, and went around Bass Hill with an ink-pad stamping "NO" on shop windows. Exciting times.

Wow, 66 years ago. Time flies.

Hi Killarney,

I've always thought of that approach - 'it's not so bad, look at the road toll' - as quite psychotic. Taken to its logical conclusion, one could say that nothing really matters, since after all two million people die each year from malaria, so why blame anybody for anything, why get worked up about anything ? Murder ? Nah, no big deal. Terrorist killings ? Nah, there's worse. Genocide ? Well, not if it's less than two million a year.

Quite psychotic. Sorry.

Joe

This is the inherent problem with multiculturalism.
If hostilities or war breaks out with the previous country of the
Immigrants, suddenly you have an enemy within.

The Muslims all over Australia are on the internet constantly to relatives
And friends in their old countries. They are giving them significant information
all the time about the politics and vulnerable targets here. Probably thinking of it only as chatting,not even
thinking of it as aiding the terrorists, but it undoubtedly is.

Multiculturalism makes a society of divided loyalties, this may be fine if the loyalties
are never seriously challenged. As in war or very bad societal problems,like poverty
,threatened starvation etc. Then the loyalties can become lethal.

This became obvious when the Japanese and Germans were not trusted to move
freely around their adopted societies in the terrible horror of a World War Two.

Hi Cheerful,

Well, it depends whether someone supports 'exclusivist' multiculti, or inclusive multiculti. To invite groups to Australia and encourage them to keep themselves apart, about as dumb a policy as you can imagine, is the first sort; encouraging new arrivals to mix, learn the language, assist them with employment, housing, education for their kids, etc., and welcome them, to help them to integrate as much and as quick as possible and make them feel part of Australia - would be the second sort.

What Britain has done in relation to Muslims has been the idiot sort of MC. The idiot 'Left' seems to support this sort of MC too, out of sheer intellectual laziness and an innate boneheadedness. I would strongly advocate and support and work for the second sort of MC.

Boring as it may be, we Australians do have some vague sort of values - in fact, I would suggest that they are so ingrained that we take them for granted, and don't notice that we have them, a bit like the air we breath. We do have them, even if a bit imperfectly sometimes: equality of all Australians, freedom of expression, certainly equal rights for men and women, reliance on democratic processes where relevant, protection of the 'weaker', opportunity for all.

And surely it's those values, or other similar values that people may prefer, that have to be persuasive for new arrivals: if they find them abhorrent - such as equality of men and women - then they can go elsewhere.

Cheers,

Joe

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*.....We are actually in a glaringly obvious moment in time that highlights the need for a bill of rights to keep politicians head down, and begin protecting citizens rights from the likes of Hanson, who would love to intern all Muslims, and her other arch enemy, the Australian Aboriginal....*

You appear to have missed the irony Joe. Ironic is it not, that your situation with the Communist party falling foul of popularist thought of the moment, and the danger to freedom of speech and human rights, by politicians boarding the train of popularism for their own ends.

Hi Dan,

I've never been much of a joiner, and thereby uncritical supporter, of any party. I joined the Democrats for a bit twenty years ago, the week before Cheryl Kernot defected from it. So even there, my timing was out.

I would have stopped supporting the Russian-oriented CPA in about 1962, then the Peking-aligned mob four or five years later. I thought hey had both betrayed their Marxist-Leninist roots. Since then I done my own thinking, as much as I'm aware of it. I have been disillusioned with the lot of it, with socialism as a whole, for about thirty years now. Since then, I've tried to keep up with reality, so obviously I've come a long way.

By 'popularism', do you mean 'populism' ? i.e. spouting 'policies' which large sections of the population might be desperate to hear, regardless of real possibilities, and therefore of any real success in implementing ? Paul Kelly has a good article on that in today's Australian, comparing Trumpf and Corbyn as exemplars.

I don't understand the rest of your post. Can you re-phrase it in standard English ?

Joe