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Trump signals Abbas must end indiscriminate slaughter of Jews : Comments

By David Singer, published 29/5/2017

Trashing the hate-filled PLO Charter and ending incitement to indiscriminately slaughter Jews are necessary steps in this process.

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All a waste of time.
Unless Allah changes what is in the Koran then nothing can change.
The Palestinians cannot do other than claim Jerusalem for their own.
The Filthy Jews must be eliminated.

In other words the Koran must be modenised.
However that is impossible.

So an agreement and peace treaty would defy the commands of Allah.
Now you & I may think that is just silly stubbornness but it strikes
right at the core of Islamic belief.
We have to accept that there is NO SOLUTION !

Considering that there is no solution, we have to accept that an
isolation policy is the best that is possible.
As the UN is inept and compromised it will require the countries
that support Israel's right to live will have to militarily support Israel.
On past performance they may not need much support.
A message to the Islamic countries that a nuclear attack on Israel
would attract a similar response would give pause for thought.

The question for western governments is
"Do we have the guts to stand up to the resultant Islamic assault on ourselves ?".
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 29 May 2017 11:02:24 AM
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' This myth of Jerusalem as Islam's third holiest city based upon the mythical ascension of Mohammed from Al-Aksa to Heaven has grown exponentially in the recent telling since 1967. '

yep the regressives who hate the God of Israel believe if they quote a lie often enough it must be true. Whether it be evolution, gw or Israel stole the land. Regressives love their lies. Mohammed never visited Jerusalem except in a ' vision' . Dear oh dear. No wonder some regressives now even deny history that Jesus lives.
Posted by runner, Monday, 29 May 2017 11:24:30 AM
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Not that Abbas and his terrorists will take any notice. They are sworn to wipe out Israel. Trump apparently is not aware of that.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 29 May 2017 11:43:09 AM
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The claim that Islam "owns" Jerusalem is not just based on some magic
flight but on previous occupation following the invasion of the Levant.
Because any land once held by moslems remains moslem land forever,
they claim the whole area.
Now we can look at that as being ridiculous but the same logic is not
allowed for the Jews.
That is backed up by the UNESCO resolution that claims Jerusalem
never was Jewish and was always Islamic.
True that is the claim, even before Islam was proclaimed !
Unesco even affirmed that the dead sea scrolls are Islamic !

This is the logic that is supporting Palestinian claims.
Time is not a given, it can be doubled back on itself.
Where is Doctor Who when we need him ?
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 29 May 2017 12:03:39 PM
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Yes David, it must not be indiscriminate, but rather, take a leaf out of Israel's book and make dammed sure to carefully discriminate/repeal former (signed and bought with blood) agreements on whim and caprice! Or suit the current political narrative?

That said, I believe, a better result would be achieved far faster with the commercial boycott ramped exponentially ever upward! And more effective than rivers of blood?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 29 May 2017 1:17:42 PM
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Yes well Dave when the Settlers & IDF stop indiscriminate slaughter of the Palestinians whose land your lot are stealing,along with water & introducing Apartheid well might take notice.
Trump my my you are getting desperate
Posted by John Ryan, Monday, 29 May 2017 2:27:30 PM
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Dear Bazz,

The Koran doesn't need to be modernized - rather, it should be exposed for what it is, an un-Islamic book, written by a cynical violent Arab gang that stole the identity of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, placing in his mouth words he never said and attributing him with things he never did.

Anyone who loves Allah and His Prophet, peace be upon him, should condemn that book and the evil-doers who wrote it.

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As for the article itself, as usual, the author does not care for Israel and its citizens - he is only concerned if they happen to be Jews, he is only concerned for the Jewish agenda, even when it harms the interests of Israel and its population.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 29 May 2017 2:42:08 PM
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Bazz,

Whether or not they claim Jerusalem is not the issue.

The issue is the continued violence.

Plenty of tenuous territorial claims remain peacefully unresolved. For instance Argentina still claims the Falkland Islands, but they don't resort to terrorism and they'll certainly never resort to war again.

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runner,

Whether Mohammed ever visited Jerusalem does not change the fact that most Muslims do regard Jerusalem as the world's third holiest site.

And just because you don't understand evolution doesn't mean it's a lie.

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John Ryan,

There is not indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinians. But Israelis do need to stop discriminating against Palestinians.

Unfortunately there are those on both sides who don't want peace. Do you?

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Yuyutsu,

Why do you believe, without any evidence, that Mohammed was a true prophet and all he's recorded to have said is a later fabrication?
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 29 May 2017 5:33:18 PM
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I agree.
Violence is not the answer.
Posted by mikk, Monday, 29 May 2017 9:03:56 PM
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Dear Aidan,

On the one hand, I look at the massive forensic work of Robert Spencer:
Spencer has shattered the authenticity of the Koran and shows that it was written no earlier than in the 790's, at least 160 years after Muhammad's death (or ascent to heaven). You can listen to his many lectures and discourses about Islam on youtube and read his book, ‘Did Muhammad Exist?’.

Spencer concludes and successfully argues that Muhammad probably never existed.

On the other hand, I consider the evidence of Shri Ramakrishna:
Ramakrishna (1836-1886) turned his life into a laboratory to verify/authenticate all religions. Having already been enlightened, he did not have the usual barriers that cause people to stumble with religion, thus it was easy for him to study, practise deeply and achieve the target of each religion in turn.

After going through and practising all the religions of India - the various sects of Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, etc., he turned to experiment with Islam (and later with Christianity).

I rely on this account of his experiment:

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In 1866, Govinda Roy, a Hindu guru who practiced Sufism, initiated Ramakrishna into Islam. Ramakrishna said that he “devoutly repeated the name of Allah, wore a cloth like the Arab Moslems, said their prayer five times daily, and felt disinclined even to see images of the Hindu gods and goddesses, much less worship them—for the Hindu way of thinking had disappeared altogether from my mind.” According to Ramakrishna, after three days of practice he had a vision of a “radiant personage with grave countenance and white beard resembling the Prophet and merging with his body”.
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As I trust both sources and accept their authority, I conclude that Saint Muhammad, peace be upon him, the Prophet of Allah who is referenced by Islam, did exist, yet his teachings and life-story were distorted beyond recognition by that Arab criminal gang that wrote the Koran and Hadith to serve their own ends of power and control, including such abusive and violent teachings that no true saint would ever utter. This has been the biggest identity-theft in history!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 29 May 2017 10:53:38 PM
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