Wake up on OLO.

The hyper-polluting system that gave rise to relevant debate on this thread article should be reconfigured to involve complete science and not just selected science to market alternative energy sales and profit.

Its way past deadline for action to stop or slow or reverse ocean ecosystem devastation including of the Great Barrier Reef.

Get over the CO2 nonsense, and that's what it is. Non sense.

Ocean currents, not CO2, regulate global climate.
Weather patterns are driven by ocean currents.
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/facts/climate.html

I reiterate as I have said previously here on OLO.

AGW and Kyoto associated science did not measure and assess solar warmth absorbed and somewhat retained in historically unprecedented ocean and lake algae plant matter proliferated and increased in mass by historically unprecedented sewage and land use nutrient overload pollution.

How can climate change agnosticism be the better bet when there is dire urgent need to reduce the human source nutrient load dumped into ocean ecosystems daily? It is a worsening situation blatantly ignored in academic circles.

In the real world, algae is warming areas of ocean and lakes giving rise to increase in cloud and change in weather and climate regionally, but not globally all at the same time.

And academics hear this.
Seafood dependent island people are now suffering chronic and worsening hardship due to devastation of fish populations and small fish - food web nurseries, devastation due to numerous algae species reducing sunlight and photosynthesis.
The result is under nourished and starving tuna and other fish populations failing to breed and multiply successfully.
Whales and seabirds are starving.
Fish are not immune to starvation.
Overfishing has impact but is not the fundamental problem.

Consequences of CO2 agenda and failure to address ocean ecosystem damage and under-nutrition, include protein deficiency malnutrition and coinciding increase in maternal mortality, Diabetes II, major organ failure, overloaded health systems, civil unrest and threat to national and international security.

If academics need relevant data then go collect it.
Ignorance of the above situation is no excuse and may constitute crime against humanity and the environment

Ah another gathering of the OLO old chooks recycling the scraps of global warming denialism. I will admit to feeling a little sentimental when I pop in to see you all neatly lining up with your same old tired piss-ant arguments.

Meanwhile the rest of the world has passed you by.

Well the old hen house might be full of holes but there is very little to inspire this old fox. Keep scratching around lads at least it gives you some form of exercise even if it is only on the keyboard.

Hasbeen, used to earn my daily bread from science and can tell that an earth sized Venus has no more atmospheric depth, nor gravity than we do. What makes Venus's atmosphere comparitively thicker than Earth's is all the water vapor, that was once rivers lakes and oceans!

And where we are headed if left to climate deniers. Look, the trouble free ( 5 year road test) trials at Oak ridge, Tennessee, tells us molten salt thorium is, after being just about the cheapest energy on earth, up there with the safest, cleanest and most reliable. And given the sheer energy (planet's best) density of thorium, refueling the reactors might be needed once every hundred years.

The fact that this form of energy is carbon free is immaterial! All we need is the massive economic case, to mothball or decommission our (near the end of their economic life)coal fired power generators, then use mass produced thorium modules as very local power, to fire up all manner of previously unaffordable industry, as well as turning our desert heartland into very profitable farms, orchards etc/etc.

Meaning we'd be no longer tied to or dependent on a very vulnerable gold plated grid or those who control it to eke every possible dollar from us!

Think man, we used to have a viable car manufacturing industry!

Given wages inflation of up to 30% PA in China, it's clearly not wages forcing our manufacturing sector offshore!

I take by your risible remarks, you want our economy and manufacturing to sink further?

Service jobs are all well and good if we have a viable manufacturing sector to support and carry them! Anything else is just pass the parcel and watch debt grow! Capice?
Alan B.

warmist have been using fake news well before the term became popular. Just like the evolution fantasy the gw high priests can't reason just demonise those demanding some true evidence. Don't hold your breath.

Ala B.,

When did we have a viable car manufacturing industry? You must have a different notion of 'viable' to me.

Climate change in the past was caused by mass doses of co2 and methane released into the atmosphere from volcanic action.
There was no sewage to worry about in them days.
All the excuses this side of the sun will not reverse the amount of Co2 to 1960 levels. Natures own level of Co2 in the atmosphere, and not yours.

Creationism and evolutionism is a non debate. It belongs in the archives of 2000 year old religion. Various forms of human being have been around for millions of years. Be best kept to yourself as a personal belief.