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Sport is not the place for social engineering : Comments

By Lyle Shelton, published 26/4/2017

The dragging of local sports clubs into the contested debate about gender theory may prove to be the final over-reach of LGBTIQ political activists.

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Yep, the concern is that some men will say they are female to get small business grants, pay less tax or maybe access to a education spot. And switch back to a man later on.
Posted by progressive pat, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 9:48:31 AM
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Lyle are the toilets at your house unisex?

P.S.
Just a little reminder most sexual assaults are done by family members or people they know.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 10:12:46 AM
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Lyle is being optimistic in thinking the infestation of sexual-perversion in sporting organisations might be the “the final over-reach”. Nasty, determined minorities out are of control in Australia. While the rest of the West (except Canada) has had enough of being bullied by minorities, Australia seems to have lost all will to fight back. There is a lot worse to come, and Australians in general are too complacent to do much about it. There is a lot of whining, but little action.

There are still institutions left for the hard Left to march through.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 10:20:34 AM
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When you look at France who is likely to select a man for President who was at very best solicited when 15 years old by his female teacher 25 years older and no one blinks an eye you know that the culture represented (ie secular) is one very sick culture. If it was a Catholic priest touching a 15 year old boy their rightly would be an outrage. He draws no attention because she is female (sorry feminist) I suspect. The agenda of our secularist is very very sick and unfortunately the children who are blessed enough to survive the womb have to put up with this sick social engineering or be bullied and labelled bigotted and other vile terms perverted by those pushing this agenda.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 10:34:16 AM
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From the sublime to the ridiculous! Followed by a (ignorance personified) virtual diatribe of risible rubbish!

And giving little else need be said that would add anything positive or worthwhile to this debate, all that remains of note, is that this (flat earth) troglodyte runs true, to a long established, intractable, recalcitrant form! Of not allowing the now irrefutable scientific evidence to alter his verbose and oft times quite venomous, bully boy commentary!

The gender of sports people, or defence personnel, for that matter, is of little concern to those fair minded folk, who participate/also serve, just their ability, indomitable courage and form!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 26 April 2017 11:02:29 AM
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What is the difference between wanting something and having a right to it?

It seems the HRC decides that whatever minority sexualities want should be defined as a right. Even if it is a right how do we decide which rights should be acknowledged when there are competing rights?

In a democratic society we have as a principle that the majority should be favoured. Sexual minority’s themselves agree with this principle except it seems when it comes to their own rights. Either we give up this principle and accept the ensuing chaos or we stick to it and apply it to all situations where there are competing rights.

Sexual minorities have to accept that they are in a minority. This in no way de-values their sexuality. It is just a matter of fact. Other types of minority seem to accept this reality and can be reasonable about their rights.

What makes these people so repulsive is nothing to do with their sexuality and everything to do with their lack of adherence to basic principles of democracy which we all abide by.

The HRC mirrors this disdain for democratic principles which are in fact human rights. They are rights agreed to by all who live in a democracy.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 11:18:26 AM
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Hey come on fellers, don't knock it.

I would have loved the chance to tackle some of the girls I went to school with, on the football field or anywhere else, for that matter.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 2:14:10 PM
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What's the difference between an expressed right and your God given sexual bias? Everything! It's is like saying, expressing your, for you normality, is some sort of right? And covered by NORMAL human rights!

What's next? That breathing the same air on or off the field of sporting endevour is some sort of right?

We don't have a right to vilify anyone of a different race! Nor should we have a RIGHT to do so because of other difference!

It's not that long ago when mixed race marriage would have been illegal!

It's like some still believe in their tiny minds that a few people chose to be born different! Regardless of that difference be it race or natural sexual orientation! Choice has never ever been an option!

As far as I know there's no social engineering on the sporting field, save by those, ignorance personified, who still believe even now, that difference is fair game!

Bring on the next election! Which will no doubt be a binding plebiscite on us all!? And expect the party having a fair dinkum fair go policy on equality and inherently fair treatment on and off the sporting field to win in a veritable landslide!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 26 April 2017 5:53:40 PM
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Never mind of course that winning is everything competitive sport is itself a very potent form of social engineering. See for instance the book No Contest by Alfie Kohn.
They are also an expression of the cult of the body, and with overtones of fascism in large scale stadium events.
Meanwhile major sporting events are used to propagandize and glamorize all kinds of potentially harmful behaviors - alcohol,betting,junk food, and tobacco. Major televised sporting events are of course a huge (the biggest single) source of advertising revenue for the commercial TV networks.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 6:29:21 PM
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Hey Alan B,
"The gender of sports people, or defence personnel, for that matter, is of little concern to those fair minded folk, who participate/also serve, just their ability, indomitable courage and form!"

Not unless you get killed in combat because of a incompetent female soldier they relaxed the rules for; or if you're a female athlete that has to always take second place to the new stars of women's sports 'transgenders'.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 11:25:00 PM
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