I've seen a maggot infested pig carcass with more class than John Ryan and AJ Phillips. Contemptible.

The left's unfounded blanket 'accusing, labeling and victimisation' of people who do not agree with them with PC terms such as racist, sexist, mysogynist, climate-denier etc, is certainly no better than if the right were ACTUALLY doing the things they we're being accused of.

The left pay no mind to the other sides issues because they have an open ended long term socialist agenda.

They don't believe in the word 'No'; which is why they banned the word from school teachers vocabularies.

Their strategy is to jump up and down and yell and scream like spoilt children until they have their way, knowing full well that grown adults have more important things to do than spend all day scolding them.

And it will probably work too, if they can fool people with political correct speech to stop them from thinking for themselves.

I'm certainly not opposed to other people sharing their views and opinions, even the ideas I would criticise and disagree with, as long as 'reason' is left free to combat it.

But it is exactly that; 'reason' which the left seeks to undermine.

Phillips:

So the appeal to nature is a fallacy as you have explained to runner. Then in the next sentence you appeal to nature as an argument for homosexuality? "a naturally evolved trait"

Is the appeal fallacious or not?

8.50am saturday morning, just finished slogging through 10 posts on Q+A and 15 often quite vicious posts pertaining to the sad death Of one of our sharpest satirists! Followed by a miserable 3 only on the NDIS!

Well, you lot have certainly got your most important priorities, well and truly sorted haven't you? Little wonder in the face of such well represented apathy, it seems to be possible for a highly intelligent blind and mute lady and potential honors graduate, to be held virtually hostage, by non blood relatives, claiming carer status? While most of you bang away on what really important to you? Regardless if on topic or off?

Like i.e., that climate change is a giant hoax, dreamt up in communist china and or, there is no such thing as naturally occurring homosexuality, manifesting as a natural aberration? Just the product of perverted choice?

And let's not allow the establish facts to get in the way of quite blatant confirmation bias! Du ma.

Moreover, such sentiments/conspiracy theories/abysmal ignorance, just wouldn't look entirely out of place, in Mr Hitler's prewar Germany? Jawohl? Da? Si?
Alan B.

Calwest,

If you have a rational argument against anything I’ve said, then I’d love to hear it. Unforutnately, as it stands, it doesn’t appear that you do.

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phanto,

Yes, the appeal to nature is indeed fallacious.

<<So the appeal to nature is a fallacy as you have explained to runner.>>

You and I have discussed the fact a couple of times now.

<<Then in the next sentence you appeal to nature as an argument for homosexuality? "a naturally evolved trait">>

No, I didn’t “appeal” to it at all. That little fact was inserted as an aside to correct runner’s false assumption. I even preceded it with an, “Either way”, to emphasise the fact.

You thought you finally had me there, didn’t you?

Oh well. Perhaps another time?

<<Is the appeal fallacious or not?>>

I said it was, didn’t I?

You’re not very good with this sort of thing, are you? The whole debating bit, I mean. You get yourself into such a right mess, tripping over your own obtuseness and what not.

AJ Philips,

Bill Leak has been dead barely a week. His wife and family are surely still grieving, as are his many, many friends and admirers.

Yet the best you can contribute is:

"Seriously though, folks. When are we just going to let this bigot die, already? The hate brigade are waving his legacy of small-mindedness around so much it’s starting to look like another Weekend at Burnie’s sequel."

Monumentally crass.

Did you ever meet Bill Leak? On what basis do you call him a bigot? The precious and deliberate misinterpretation of his Aboriginal cop cartoon? What?

Don't bother answering. It won't improve my opinion of you. Nor others' opinions of you, I'll bet. They'll know the real bigot.

I'd have thought all of that was pretty obvious, but since you asked for an explanation...