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The Paris Agreement, Trump, Turnbull and Tesla : Comments

By Alan Moran, published 15/3/2017

We'd have power at three times the cost of coal plus whatever is the final price for the batteries.

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Alan, Hazelwood is past redemption, it has already been raised from the grave before. In light of the impasse with gas in the State of Victoria, it seems inevitable that the government will have to build another larger brown coal fired power station. I should point out to the unenlightened serfs out there that burning gas still produces CO2, albeit somewhat less than burning coal.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 10:36:13 AM
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pseudo science has certainly dumbed down the masses. Unfortunately Turnbull as a warmist is among the most gullible. It will do the adherents to green religion good not be able to heat and cool their homes, fly around the globe sprouting their lunacy and scaring kids. History will show us to be close to the dumbest generations for embracing the socialist driven gw fantasy.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 10:55:51 AM
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Batteries are just another temporary solution to a conundrum that won't be solved until this nation's "decision makers"? Grasp the nettle and simply stop refusing point blank to look at exclusively peaceful nuclear energy as essential base load power!

And not as a backstop to enormously expensive renewables! Wind and solar. Yes they are becoming cheaper but not enough to reliably power a car manufacturing plant, a shipyard, an emergency hospital, military base/facility or electrified very fast trains!

These things need reliable on demand energy that is both safe and competes with coal. Thus far, the only renewable that has is very large scale solar thermal! And large scale domestic biogas production holds promise.

But the one option that can beat the pants off them all including coal, clean or dirty, is walk away safe molten salt thorium!

And the very reason our so called leaders, studiously pretend it doesn't exist, or that they know no example of a working reactor?

I'd be hard pressed to show a working example of a horse drawn combine harvester, and only know of such things, courtesy of well preserved archives.

Which also contain not just the aforementioned examples, but design features and blow by blow, thorium reactor assembly and operational instructions, so simple even the average (please explain) politician, albeit, severely tested, can understand them?

Solar thermal is carbon free power, so also is thorium! With thorium the very cheapest or most profitable! And so abundant, we can power the world for the next 1,000 years with what is in the dirt, and thousands more when we mine igneous rock!

Thorium delivers everything fusion promised, but never delivered! Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 15 March 2017 11:03:40 AM
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Alan, I still don't see any gigawatt thorium plants being constructed yet. Please explain why.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 16 March 2017 10:16:48 AM
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Hazel wood was to be fazed out since car was in office.. Coal is a very dirty word why use it.
What makes you think gas is going to run out in the next 100 years..
Posted by doog, Sunday, 19 March 2017 6:09:25 PM
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