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Standing up against Nannies : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 10/3/2017

I can't say that I am an authority on Wicked camper vans, but I haven't seen any homophobic ones, or violent ones, or racist ones, or misogynist ones.

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Would such messages on motor vehicles possibly cause a driver to lose concentration?
Roadside billboards as well?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 10 March 2017 10:16:55 PM
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People are entitled to crack smutty jokes as much as they like in private. When these jokes go into the public domain and are linked to profit, it becomes a socio-political issue. In this era of gender politics, these laddish campervan slogans have huge ramifications.

I recently posted a comment on the campervan issue on a current DV thread, and covered some of these slogans.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=18852&page=0

I'll do a cut and paste of it here:

<<I quote:

‘Life sucks if your girlfriend doesn’t’

‘In every princess, there is a little slut who wants to try it just once.’

‘Fat chicks are harder to kidnap.’ (Whoah! Sinister!)

‘A wife: An attachment you screw on the bed to get the housework done.’

‘I wouldn’t trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn’t die.’

Imagine if [feminists] launched a fleet of campervans with slogans like this [...]:

‘Life sucks if your boyfriend doesn’t.’

‘In every charming prince, there is a rapist who wants to try it just once.’

‘Fat guys are harder to knee in the balls.’

‘A husband: An attachment you screw on the bed to get the mortgage paid.’

‘I wouldn’t trust anything that leaves a wet patch in my bed, and expects me to wash the sheets.’

Nasty. Horrible. Vulgar. Man-hating. Yes, absolutely! Men would be rightly up in arms about this. The slogans would go viral as living proof that feminists are the man-hating scum of the earth. The law would crack down on this campervan filth with such speed, it would make the male ego spin.

But when this campervan filth is directed at women, it’s normalised as traditional laddish humour. Nothing to get upset about, folks. Boys will be boys.>>

This is the whole point. It's double-standard anti-nanny-state thinking to assume that this filth is acceptable humour because it's directed AT other men ABOUT women. But the reverse would be deemed totally unacceptable.

It's only children with immature brain development who need nannies.
Posted by Killarney, Saturday, 11 March 2017 3:40:54 AM
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The problem with the professionally offended left whingers is that they are logically deficient. They choose to be offended by statements that contain not one obscenity, but have sexual implications, however, are perfectly happy to accept obscenities on vans in other contexts because they approve of the motivations.

SteeleRedux is a prime example of this:

"I have driven past someone with a whole bunch of text, some of it quite abusive, painted on the side of their van. Usually an individual with a grievance against a particular institution, often the court system, but I would be loathed to deprive him of the right to express his opinion. However this is a company setting out to be deliberately offensive in order to make more money. Doesn't cut it"

Given that there are comedians who on public tv in prime time go far further, and that most of these prissy puritans have probably never seen a wicked camper, it is clear that this confected outrage is selective.

What's next for these censorious prudes? Banning T shirts?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 11 March 2017 5:04:28 AM
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The point I would make to the above posters who claim that censoring Wicked Campers is either left wing or right wing political correctness, is that it is neither. The fact that it was a Green MLA who proposed the ban would have to be the very first time that this organisation has done anything which crossed the political divide.

Right wing and left wing parents and grandparents, who are societies largest and usually most socially responsible members, deplore the idea that any commercial organisation can gain publicity by telling little boys that all girls are sluts, women should not be trusted, or that girls are expected to perform fellatio on their boyfriends. And it would not matter if that message degraded males instead of females.

Every civilised country grades movies into those suitable for children, adolescents, and adults. This is because intelligent people understand that adult concepts can be very harmful to children until the children are old enough to grasp that what passes for entertainment is often a parody or an exaggeration of real life. That children are being exposed to movies today which present criminality as fashionable, and that real men get even with a gun, a knife, or a box of matches, can be understood when we see that the fastest growing crime statistic in the USA today is juvenile gang related homicides.

The messages on Wicked Campers have no intrinsic artistic merit. They are simply a tool dreamed up by a greedy company that is meant to give them free publicity from deliberately offending the public at large. Unless we as a society unite to prevent this happening, it will become the new standard of commercial advertising. And once children see it everywhere on TV, movies, billboards, and campers, we can hardly blame the kids if they think that such values are normal.

Whenever we see kids today getting into serious trouble, we often ask "what did their parents teach them?". News Flash. The American Indians have a saying that is perfectly true. "It takes a whole tribe to teach children right from wrong."
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 11 March 2017 6:42:54 AM
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Hear, hear and well said Killarney! And Lego!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 11 March 2017 9:52:35 AM
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It is as though the Sixties protests against censorship and demand for free speech never happened.

Censorship of sex, 'what about the children?', was the toehold and lever for widespread and deep censorship that covered up monstrous abuses of power and allowed politicians and others to escape accountability.
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 11 March 2017 10:25:01 AM
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