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By Gary Johns, published 2/3/2017According to Malcolm Roberts, Pauline Hanson's One Nation senator for Queensland, there are Muslim members of One Nation and there are surgeons and barristers who are members of One Nation.
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Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 2 March 2017 9:22:20 AM
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Values? Like say ending welfare for the rich, the very worst kind of welfare bludging! And ought to start by ending the taxpayer funded rort of negative geared residential real estate, on the grounds its not a bona fide commercial risk of business capital.
Nor is capital gains, excused from some safe as houses residential investments. Pauline, as a single mum fish and chip proprietor who actually earned her money, is like as not offended by extremely well paid fat cats like say, a pious perpetually pontificating Church going Mr Andrews, with his dead soulless eyes, getting negative gearing benefits from somewhere around 123 houses? Me I'd be more that happy with around 8 positively geared houses and more than happy with the income I'd earn from that without asking any Aussie taxpayer to help pay off my investment. I mean 10% down on a million dollars worth of investments, and then the tenants and taxpayer pays everything else, all while property appriciates through an allegorical roof! I think the Lady is fair dinkum And for Australia and Australians first, foremost and forever! And even though I might not agree with the sum total of her policies, prepared to give her a fair go! Because she is one of us/a handful who are genuine and for ordinary Australians! As opposed to multi nationals or foreigners with very deep pockets! The major parties have had endless opportunities, with an elitist Labor a standout as effectively divorcing itself from its core constituency! And the coalition seems not too far behind, brown nosing big money, most of it foreign? Values Gary? What values would they be? Bank balance values perhaps? Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 2 March 2017 10:27:11 AM
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It's time
Posted by jamo, Thursday, 2 March 2017 10:54:49 AM
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Does she know her Latin verbs? ...no?
Then she's in! Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 2 March 2017 11:57:45 AM
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"the needs of the voters and the needs of the nation. Of course the two are not the same."
The people are the nation, the people are the voters. They are the same. It's the international leftists who propose "Australia" is a blank slate, a vacuum up for grabs by anyone born anywhere. That's the only way the needs of the "nation" could differ from the people/voters. Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 2 March 2017 2:50:32 PM
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Sorry Pauline, you had my vote right up until you announced you were jumping into bed with Tony Abbott & Co.
Running under what you stood for, espoused and had fought for, would have quite likely seen you garner more votes/support per se. This would have given the 3 Stooges aka: LNP/ALP/Greens a bigger fright. Still, whatever it is you hope to achieve by preferencing with LNP & you have your reasons, these no doubt will become clearer as time passes. I suspect though it will be a wake up call for the 2 party abused system we have had for far too long now. Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Thursday, 2 March 2017 4:05:18 PM
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I've met Malcolm Robert 3 times but don't particularly like Pauline. They have a policy of getting a Govt Bank to create debt free money for infrastructure. Bankers own the major parties, that's why they shun a proper investigation.Labor will have a sham Royal Commission or none at all.
The world is now consumed with debt which cannot be repaid .We have to stop private bankers creating new money for inflation + growth as debt. It has destroyed the world economy and spawned a few elites who can please themselves,creating wars and massive poverty at a whim. So vote for any party bar the big 2 or the Greens as they are controlled by the deep state. Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 2 March 2017 8:02:15 PM
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Posted by Kristi99, Thursday, 2 March 2017 8:13:59 PM
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I have seen one Asian (Chinese) member of One Nation, Gary Johns. He was handing out "how to vote" cards at my local polling booth. He said he was from the Philippine Island of Mindanao, and he had "seen what Muslims do to Chinese." He didn't want Muslims coming to Australia.
With one third of voters born overseas, the immigrant vote is supremely important to both the Liberals and labor. But the endless sucking up to ethnic minorities has incensed what is left of the Australian majority. Especially when Australians see minorities getting preferential treatment, and when imported people demand that Australia must change it's culture to suite them. Australian single pensioner $320 per week. "Refugee" pension for single $476 per week. Most One Nation supporters are white Australians from every demographic group. They hate political correctness, liken Gillian Triggs and the AHRC the KGB, don't want a republic, love their flag, hate high immigration, despise Islam and want Muslim immigration stopped, and demand freedom of speech. Since neither the Libs or Labs support these principles, it is hardly surprising that a new political party promoting the ideals of white Australians is emerging. The idea that this is racist is laughable. The Left in particular invented identity politics and they pointedly oppose the interests of white Australians at every opportunity. They can hardly complain when the objects of their racial hatred turn on them. Posted by LEGO, Friday, 3 March 2017 3:23:14 AM
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Australian single pensioner $320 per week.
"Refugee" pension for single $476 per week. Got a source for that? Posted by JBSH, Friday, 3 March 2017 8:31:16 AM
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Albie Manton in Darwin, *all* parties must inform Electoral Commissions where their preferences go, in the event of not winning a seat.
They must number *all* candidates, just like voters do. This does not mean they are best buddies. Lego, yes, the Law of Unintended Consequences. Before the multicultural propaganda machine, Australians never really thought all that much about "who" they were, as a people. Confronted by the overt demonstrations of others' ethnic identities, they are now *consciously* aware of their own affiliation, and cannot unknow what they now know. Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 3 March 2017 9:21:03 AM
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"Before the multicultural propaganda machine, Australians never really thought all that much about "who" they were, as a people."
We didn't need or have to, and that's why it was better. I think the culture in Australia was traditionally 'No culture'. People from other countries and cultures think this is a point of derision, that we are stupid or that it's easy pickings for them to import and set up their culture. That they should be able to impose their culture since we don't have one; past meat pies, Sunday BBQ's and beer. But we're not stupid, we're smart. All these people in my opinion miss the point ENTIRELY of what it means to be Australian. I think we are 'No Culture' on purpose. - The point being 'We sure as hell don't want anyone else's imported culture either'. People who do not understand this; especially religious immigrants - They will never EVER really be true Aussies until they understand this, in my opinion. It's from this 'no culture' mindset that real Aussies are born and bred. Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 3 March 2017 10:05:30 AM
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Sorry LEGO, you've got that wrong, at least the pensioner part.
The age pension is running at $877 a fortnight, $438.50 a week. I suspect you might be talking about the unemployment benefit at $320. If however you are right that the benefit given to unemployed asylum seekers, the so called refugees, is $476 a week, quite a bit more than our aged pensioners & that becomes public knowledge, I expect there will be a pretty violent reaction. The very minimum reaction would be a landslide of support for One Nation & a huge increase in the number wanting to stop this stupidity, & spreading to a growth in opposition to all immigration, & the foreign blowins wanting a cut of our welfare. It is not only in the USA that resistance to getting ripped off by vote buying political parties is growing. Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 3 March 2017 10:38:32 AM
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Armchair Critic "I think the culture in Australia was traditionally 'No culture'."
Culture is however people live together, shared understandings and practices, not palaces and peasant dresses. Because our culture is "modern everyday life culture", it's "invisible". Fish don't see the ocean, because it's all around them. Modern everyday life evolves too, so we were never fossilised in any one era or mode as some like to claim. Nor were we averse to adopting exotic elements if we *really* wanted them, e.g. surfing, pizza. These exotic elements were absorbed into the "modern everyday life culture", not something apart from it. And through commerce (surf shops, Pizza Hut) not immigration. Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 3 March 2017 11:50:09 AM
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I'd like to know where the $476 figure comes from.
My understanding is that refugees get the same social security entitlements as citizens of the same age, employment and disability status. Posted by JBSH, Friday, 3 March 2017 1:04:06 PM
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//I'd like to know where the $476 figure comes from.//
It's made up. "In recent years, a series of emails have been widely circulated throughout Australia claiming to describe the social security entitlements for refugees, compared with those of other Australian residents. A common claim in these emails is that refugees in Australia receive higher social security benefits than age pensioners. Some also suggest that refugees receive free gifts such as houses. Claims of this kind are erroneous and appear to have caused some confusion in the community. There is no truth to claims made in emails circulated throughout Australia that refugees are entitled to higher benefits than other social security recipients. Refugees have the same entitlements as all other permanent residents—they do not receive special refugee payments or special rates of payment. Given the circumstances in which refugees come to settle in Australia, they are exempt from the standard waiting period that applies to migrants seeking to access social security payments or concession cards. Refugees also receive short-term assistance from DSS under the Humanitarian Settlement Services program, aimed at helping them settle effectively once they have received permanent residency." http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1415/AsylumFacts#_Toc413067447 Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 3 March 2017 2:58:36 PM
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Pauline will need to carefully watch the Muslim members, if they really exist, because of taqiyya. The Greens will have to do the same: over centuries, Muslims invaded countries, and eventually reduced the majority to a pathetic minority. Political parties would be a pushover for them.