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How faith supports the political process : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 27/2/2017

Thankfully the tradition of public service inherited from Great Britain still abides, but for how long now that its foundations have been quietly weakened?

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Dear David,

Religion is not concerned with silly questions such as whether God exists - asking such questions is a modern trend which the ancients had no interest in and which simply never crossed their minds.

Rather than "What exists?", religion always asked "What is good?" (which is a corollary to "What leads to God", but let's not get into this here) and always sought for techniques and practices that make people better, that improve their character (sometimes more successfully, sometimes less, but this was always the aim of every sincerely-religious person and organisation).

Believing in God's existence is one of those techniques - and it tends to work well for those who are able to follow it, whose mind is not too afflicted with modern questions. The fact that God does not exist is completely irrelevant - it is still good to believe in God, it is still good to worship and praise God, it is especially good to sing to God and repeat His name at all times.

Let me testify on myself, that had I not had the good fortune to imbibe the great religious teachings at the feet of my spiritual mentors, then I would in all likelihood have ended up a thief, a murderer and a rapist.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 27 February 2017 2:11:33 PM
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the unbelievable part of this article is that Peter claims to be a believer. It certainly shows that not all belief systems are equal and Peter's seems more akin to the earth worshippers rather than the Creator of the earth. His rant about Trump defies belief. I take it he would prefer to back Clintom with her sponsporship of the organisation that trades in baby body parts. Surely if you really are trained in biological science then you would know how wicked this trade is despite pseudo scientist changing the name of the unborn. NO doubt you have also fallen for consensus 'science'as far as the warming of the planet.
Posted by runner, Monday, 27 February 2017 3:08:48 PM
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Yuyutsu, a lot of what you say makes a certain amount of sense. I might say that there are many good things which have only happened because people have had a belief in God, although our system of morals and ethics probably predates history. But a belief in something doesn't make it true, no matter how many believe it. For a long time people believed that the earth was the centre of the solar system, but that was subsequently found to be wrong.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Monday, 27 February 2017 3:32:35 PM
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This is all pretty depressing Mr Sellick.

It appears to be forgotten here, that the essence of Christ, and thus Christianity, was humility and simplicity. Apart from overarching forgiveness of others weaknesses, (a facet of life I personally struggle with).
More of the essence was rendering unto Caesar etc.

The only kingdom which matters to a true believer, is the Kingdom of God. Christians are advised by Christ's teachings, not to be troubled by worldly matters best attended to by Caesar.

All happiness exists for the true believer, in the direction of Christ's teachings. You appear to be in a trap...maybe a good dose of Pilgrims Progress would be in order...keep it simple!

Christianity is not, and was not ever intended to be complicated: especially by worldly affairs.

Could I suggest to you, to aid in your recovery as a believer, that you throw the TV out the back door, cancel your newspaper subscriptions, abandon your deep theology, and return to pure Christian simplicity.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 27 February 2017 8:43:53 PM
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Addendum :

The poor make the best Christians. It's probably why America has such an abundance of them. There they are classified as evangelical. Fundamental also describes them. One must be, at heart, a fundamentalist to be closest to Christ. Some see this as the fault of Christianity.
(The same problem exists with Islam).

It is a problem which can be easily overcome by redistribution of wealth, which is corrupting to Christians, and will also have the same effect on radical Islam.
This is a job for Caesar! (While the fraudsters, Turnbull and Shorten, preside over the redistribution of wealth in the opposite direction, they appear too stupid to realise the growing radicalism in this Country it causes. Arise Pauline Hanson).

Christ takes over the role of security in insecure times, very evident among the poor. And if anybody could kill every male child, (as war did to the population in Bolivia), King Donald is the man to do it. Who will be the next Moses in the Bull rushes?
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 27 February 2017 9:25:35 PM
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Who amongst the believers can claim to knows God's will?
How do the author know God didn't send Trump; an imperfect man?
What did the author expect; Jesus to run for election himself?

I awoke this morning and the first thing I heard was Melania Trump reciting 'The Lords Prayer' in a video that was taken about a week ago.
You know she's copped a lot of criticism already and it takes a lot of courage to do what she did.

I think the author should humble himself and listen to Melania as I did this morning and think upon how much his own criticisms might apply to himself.
Was his own ego not at work disparaging Trump when writing this article?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1fTdbxZn7Y

I should remind him it was Christians who's support helped elect Trump.
Are all of those Christians wrong and he right;
Or is there more to the story and his ignorance betrays him?

Just so everyone is aware '1984' OFFICIALLY began a week ago (33 years overdue);
- With global tech giants moving to shut down free speech, shut out Independent media, and overthrow the Trump administration.
If you aren't careful, while you're busy talking all your crap, Democracy (even the 'pretend' type we have now) might actually become a thing of the past.

They've taken over the Universities,
Taken over Congress,
Taken over Hollywood,
Taken over the Media.

Who's left to speak out against them?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 27 February 2017 11:55:53 PM
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