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Dear Runner,

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« We probably are not to far off in our belief as far as Government is concerned »

Many important reforms are long overdue and successive short-term governments are incapable of doing anything other than maintaining the status quo.

We need a five-year legislature and stable government in order to get the country in order of battle and moving again.
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« Every politician has drawn their ideology from somewhere whether it be emilys list, the bible, the Koran or Stalin, etc. »

I agree we should keep religion and ideology out of politics and vice-versa. I am for “disestablishment” (as proposed in my previous post).
That, by the way, is the big problem of Islam. In my opinion, religious Islam is neither better nor worse than Christianity, Judaism, or any other religion. It is political Islam that is the big problem. The day the Muslims adopt, implement and enforce “disestablishment” the world will be a better place.
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« Fools/gullible actually believe evolution is a scientific fact. We have the warming high priests scaring kids and clowns like getup in order to suck more money from the public. You have the homosexual lobby pushing its sick ideology on the public and kids »

I respect your religious-inspired opinions, Runner but do not share them. I trust that you will reciprocate. I prefer the scientific method to blind faith. I am opposed to lobbying as a general principle and deeply sceptical of ideology in all its forms.
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« It seems many secularist real hate is Christian influence because it exposes their own lack of morality. They are happy to encompass Islam, Buddism and every other ism as long as its not Christian in origin »

I am sure you have good reason to think that, Runner. I, personally, have never observed it. Though I do know an very callous and hypocrite Catholic lady who is a regular church attender and extremely pious.

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' I prefer the scientific method to blind faith.' You have to be joking Banjo. Your ignorance or deceit is incredible. Scientific method for what? health benefits of sodomy?, order from chaos?, laws with no LawGiver, unborn not human. By all means have your secular dogmas but don't pretend that they are rational or based on science.

Dear Najla,

Thank You for your well reasoned article.
It was quite brave of you to try to present
to readers a different perspective from
the picture people get from the media about Islam.

To many Westerners, Islamic fundamentalism seems
like an almost scandalous return to a medieval
morality. I've written previously that it conjures
forth images of women behind veils, of adulterers
being stoned, of thieves having their hands
cut off, of public floggings and executions, of
martyrdom in holy wars, and, in extreme cases,
of political fanaticism exemplified in aircraft
hijackings and terrorist bombings.

This picture is rather distorted, for it is based
on what is newsworthy rather than what is typical.
Such as your life here in Australia.
Articles such as yours are therefore of great value.
Nothing other than knowledge is going to bridge the
gap between people. Only through education will their
understanding of each other increase and break down
the barriers. We need people such as yourself who
are willing to inter-act and explain things from
your point of view that just may counter the
prejudices (finergs-crossed) passed on from their parents (who
themselves have not had the schooling to break the
generally ignorant cultural inheritance of their
parents).

Again Thank You for coming on to this forum
I for one appreciate it very much.

Foxy,

Have you read the Koran yet?

Runner: Your ignorance or deceit is incredible. Scientific method for what? health benefits of sodomy?, order from chaos?, laws with no Law Giver, unborn not human.

It’s not ignorance or deceit. Science is an ongoing search for the truth. Sodomy & The Unborn line is pushed by a very few & isn’t liked by a majority of Seculars. Order from Chaos is a given in Science but overall there is still Chaos in the Universe & never will be. Scientific Fact that the Sun will eventually consume the Earth & it will go Nebula & everything in our particular Solar System will become Star “Dust” once again. Our Galaxy will eventually go the same way & possibly all the Galaxies will do the same. Then it’ll start all over again.

Runner: By all means have your secular dogmas but don't pretend that they are rational or based on science.

Secular Dogmas can be just as bad as Religious Dogmas, take Socialism, Communism & Democracy for example. What’s that story about the Cow?

Runner: laws with no Law Giver.

There is a Law Giver, The People & Society.

Foxy: may counter the prejudices (fingers-crossed) passed on from their parents (who themselves have not had the schooling to break the generally ignorant cultural inheritance of their parents).

My mother told me that we should let moslems in because they will see how wonderful Christianity is & convert. It’s not really working that way Foxy. Most of the Jihad’s in Australia are 2nd & 3rd generation. Most of the Imams in Australia follow & preach the Median Koran. As explained by mhaze. This is the second part & most violent.Najla seems to follow the Medina Koran but will she be allowed to if the moslims take over

Hear Hear Foxy, I agree.
Najila probably has now a better idea of how her religion is perceived in Australia. Hopefully she now understands that the ABC is not a good test of Australian opinion.