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Dear migrants, let’s reclaim the flag as a symbol of unity : Comments

By Saeed Khan, published 24/1/2017

Mayor Cotter, standing in front of an Australian flag, gave an impassioned speech about what it meant to be Australian and why we must engage in public life.

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//Dear migrants, let’s reclaim the flag from racist thugs and xenophobes this Australia Day. Display it with pride. It’s your way of celebrating your new homeland in unity with all Australians regardless of their colour, class, creed or culture.//

Well spoken, Mr. Khan. I really object to the fckwits that try to use my flag which I saluted every week for the 15 years or so I was a Scout, as a symbol of white pride. I'm very white, and I'm not proud of any behaviour those racist dicks try to excuse by waving their flag about whilst they engage in vile abuse.

//I just wish that the Government would remove the racist symbol of the ridiculous Saint Patrick's Cross from the Flag.//

Do you feckin' have a problem with the Irish, mate? Come down to Lake Macquarie and say that to my face, if you've got the bollocks. As long as the British retain control of Northern Ireland, there is place for the cross of their patron saint on the Union Jack. Frankly, I think it's a bigger embarrassment that there is no representation of Wales: that is properly racist.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 6:07:52 PM
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Foxy,

"The Anglo-Celtic element in the population is expected to drop to 62 percent by 2025."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Celtic_Australians#Number_of_Anglo-Celtic_Australians

Which would seem to indicate that it is still a majority.

You said, "Today the surviving population of culturally British people
is small and their descendants are being matched in number
by newcomers"

Currently it's around 66% so how is that small?

Back to your basic maths book, Foxy.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 6:09:25 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

The figures given were not ones I made up but
were also taken from the web, like yours from
Wikipedia. It would be interesting to see
the reality though as to how accurate the given numbers
you cited really are. There are facts like inter-marriages that
come into play and we shall see what the future will
bring especially with numbers being matched by
newcomers to this country. I personally predict that
we shall in the future become even more of a
richer tapestry than we already are.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 6:36:24 PM
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Foxy,

Intermarriages do not lessen the percentages one iota, they dilute but that's all.
How about a reference?

Toni,

There is no such thing as the Cross of St. Patrick; Patrick doesn't have a cross as he was not martyred but died of old age.

The cross attributed to him is the Saltire of the Geraldines, who were Normans not Irish even though the FitzGeralds became "more Irish than the Irish".
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 8:19:11 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

Many of the statistics that demographers have to
work with are merely estimates, which in many
cases are unreliable. The Bureau of the Census
has claimed that millions of people - vagrants,
illegal immigrants, illiterates, and many others are
omitted from their figures. Demography thus consists
of much more then simply extending lines on graphs.
The science must take full account of all factors, social,
culture, and environmental, that may affect population
trends.

Since such factors can't always be accurately forecast
demographic projections into the distant future are
therefore necessarily inexact. Nor is unpredictability
the only problem that demographers have to face. Many
of the statistics that they have to work with are
merely estimates, which in many cases are unreliable.

Anyway, enough said. If you want to believe that the
population of this country is made up of a larger
percentage of a particular group - I have no intention
of trying to change your mind. Nor am I interested in
doing so.

The future will take care of itself. What is important
to me is that people from all different backgrounds live
together in harmony and celebrate and enjoy our diversity
be it in food, in music, in religion, in language, and
in culture. I shall leave it at that.
Find someone else to argue with over numbers or percentages.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 10:13:59 PM
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Onya Saeed!

C'mon Saeed, C'mon C'mon http://youtu.be/2uBjJAV3CMk
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 11:33:02 PM
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