Another attempt to rewrite history by an idiot that denies the holocaust.

The Jewish people are still milking the Holocaust for everything they can, and to hell with " the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine."

David

Absolutely agree with VK3AUU!
Alan B.

This was a very sensible article... apart from the last sentence:
"A second Arab State in former Palestine – in addition to Jordan - remains a fatuous and unrealistically attainable goal."

Palestinians have their own separate identity and their own territory. The majority of them are not regarded as Jordanian by Jordan, nor Israeli by Israel.

A Palestinian state is the most practical way forward, even if it is just a temporary stage on the way to reunification.

Sooner or later it will be realised that a compromise is not possible.
The present physical borders look like being there for all time.
The recent resolutions by the UNESCO committee that there was no Jewish
history in the area and that even the Dead Sea Scrolls are Islamic
just shows the total madness at the UN has reached a crescendo.
The Palestinians are demanding that the Dead Sea Scrolls be handed to
them because they are Islamic documents.

Oh yes, and what countries are on the Human Rights Commission ?
Is Saudi Arabia still chairing the committee ?
What a joke they have not even signed the Human Rights Charter.
And they criticise Australia ?

"Kerry says US 'cannot be expected to defend' Israel's settlements"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-29/kerry-says-us-'cannot-be-expected-to-defend'/8151924

At last, this should have been said eight years ago.

with idiot left wing supporters of terrorism Israel should be 'milking the Holocaust for everything they can'.

VK3AUU:

Who is milking the holocaust here "for everything they can" and for what purpose? I've read David's text 3 times - it is not mentioned there. Are you referring to Shadow Minister's comment, which is quite relevant here?

What issues do you have with "civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine"?

Can you elaborate?

Or Alan B - which bit do you strongly agree with? Are there any detail you can provide?

So colonialists in Britain presumed in 1922 to decree what is to take place in distant Palestine. And today's ultra-racists like Mr Singer continue to clutch on to this declaration of the now defunct British Colonial Office as some sort of justification for the race-defined state of Israel to exist. Sorry Mr Singer but the British Empire is long dead, Palestine is not under British jurisdiction and Palestinians are not British subjects.

#Aidan

An Arab State between Jordan and Israel was first proposed in 1947 by the UN but rejected by the Arabs.

The Arabs could have created that State at anytime between 1948 and 1967 but failed to do so.

They have rejected offers by Israel to enable the creation of such a State in 2000/1 and 2008.

Those opportunities are not going to happen again.

The Arabs of the West Bank need to have their Jordanian citizenship restored as existed between 1950 and 1988. This will happen when sovereignty in the West Bank is divided between Jordan and Israel in direct negotiations.

The PLO and Hamas simply cannot bring themselves to ever making peace with Israel.

Jordan signed a peace traety with Israel in 1994. Jordan - already occupying 78% of former Palestine - is the key to ending the Jewish-Arab conflict

Redrawing the international border that separates Israel and Jordan can happen in months and end a conflict which has raged for 100 years.

#Emperor Julian

You state:
"So colonialists in Britain presumed in 1922 to decree what is to take place in distant Palestine."

Wrong - it was the League of Nations that decreed in 1922 what was to take place in Palestine.

Indeed all 51 member states of the League of Nations unanimously endorsed the provisions of the Mandate for Palestine providing for the reconstitution in Palestine of the Jewish National Home.

Seems as though the Arab propagandists have successfully brainwashed you into swallowing their fictitious rubbish.

Go read the Mandate at this link:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp

Sounding off on a subject you seem to know little about is really quite foolish.

We keep hearing of the 51 league of Nations governments that decreed what was to take place in Palestine over which not one of them had legitimate jurisdiction and all of whom were foreign to Palestine.

The only legitimate body to make decisions over Palestine would comprise or demonstrably represent everyone born there, plus everyone DIRECTLY descended from someone born there, including everyone forcibly exiled from there. There are millions of them, far exceeding the foreign settler usurpers. Claims of genetic connections beyond that are racist garbage stemming from a foreign terrorist invasion.

#Emperor Julian

Go tell your nonsense to the 51 States who made the decision to reconstitute the Jewish National Home in Palestine as well as establish the Mandates for Syria and Lebanon and Mesopotamia that they had no legal right to do so.

Here are the countries that unanimously voted for the Mandate:
Albania, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, British India, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Italy, Japan, Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes, Latvia, Liberia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay,

When you have finished with them go tell the UN they had no right to preserve what the League of Nations did in Palestine by inserting article 80 in the UN Charter.

You sound like the spokesman for the PLO and Hamas. They too don't accept the legality of what was done almost 100 years ago and in subsequent years.

You have been reading too much of their propaganda

EJ,

As most of the Jews are either born in Israel or directly descended, what is your point.

If they were born there or directly descended from identifiable individuals born there they have every right to remain, not as born overlords but as equals with everyone else in a state of Palestine stretching from the sea to the border of Jordan. Otherwise they are foreign settlers who should return to America or wherever. I know this is repetitious but it is a response to the Zionist sympathiser who doesn't get it and asked that it be repeated yet again.

Re David Singer - all he has done is repeat yet again the names of the foreign governments that presumed at various times to make rules for a country that wasn't theirs. Their rules are as worthless as the rules made for Poland by the Huns.

EJ,

Most Jews are born in Israel though their parents may not be, and most of them are refugees from Arab countries that expelled them and they cannot be returned. Virtually none of them are from America.

Secondly, I am glad that you require that the "refugees" to be returned require documentation, as that would exclude most of them.

Those of them that qualify can return to the new state of Palestine that includes Gaza and most of the West Bank.