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Castro’s hidden legacy : Comments

By William Hill, published 15/12/2016

In Castro’s Cuba homosexual acts were a criminal offense. Gay Cubans were denied the right to become members of the Cuban Communist Party, a policy that by many accounts still persists.

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One might have attempted to defend this part of Castro's legacy, if there was any element whatsoever, of choice, in gender bias!

We are born who and what we are! No ifs, buts or maybes! And to vilify or persecute folks for daring to be born different! Demonstrates as nothing else can! An unusual degree of abysmal ignorance!

Even so, willful ignorance is no excuse, and may he rot in hell for all eternity for his inexcusable excesses!

Others remain free to judge him less harshly, if they are able?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 15 December 2016 10:51:26 AM
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You mean his legacy against gays is in part defensible?
Posted by The Third Man, Thursday, 15 December 2016 11:12:42 AM
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No!
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 15 December 2016 11:49:49 AM
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I admit not, to understanding, many of the crimes or the excessive controls he'd placed on the Cuban population ? I understand he did many positive things for the country, in terms of developing science, medicine, and education - conversely he exercised very tight controls over his people and it was rumored he introduced 'death squads' in order to maintain his iron grip over the country, as well as greatly strengthening ties with the then USSR.

Though before Fidel CASTRO, Cubans had to contend with the likes of Fulgencio BATISTA and Osvaldo TORRADO, both of whom were manifestly corrupt, and were very much submissive to many of the American organised crime figures, living and operating between Miami and Havana.

I know nothing of CASTRO's thinking or ideology concerning homosexual males or their behaviour, nothing at all. Though personally, I don't agree nor accept the practice of sodomy, nevertheless it's now legal in this country and as such all homosexuals, whatever their various proclivities may be, nobody has the right to either victimise nor physically assault them, simply because they're practicing their particular variation of homosexual behaviour. And I for one thoroughly support that law.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 15 December 2016 1:10:57 PM
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Castro was a monster and Communist grub. End of story.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 15 December 2016 2:13:54 PM
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This is a disgustingly stupid article ...
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 15 December 2016 4:19:36 PM
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To make progeny
man has sex then homosex
is an irony!

Homo sex cannot be considered as normal sexual behaviour. Adults have attraction towards the opposite sex. This attraction is fundamental for procreation. Attraction towards the same sex needs medical and psychological analysis
Posted by Ezhil, Thursday, 15 December 2016 4:35:48 PM
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I agree with Diver Dan, and say so what!
Meanwhile all of the right-wing freedom loving USA propaganda hacks and outfits were sponsoring and encouraging the systematically murderous work of the death squads trained at the benighted institution featured on this site:
http://www.soaw.org
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 15 December 2016 6:41:44 PM
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Im confused, are diver dan and daffy Castro fans?
Posted by The Third Man, Thursday, 15 December 2016 8:28:55 PM
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By way of comparison, sodomy was decriminalised in Cuba in 1979. Whereas in Australia, sodomy was still a crime in Australia up until 1990 in Qld, 1989 in WA and 1984 in NSW and NT. In the 1960s and 1970s, Australia's attitude to, and persecution of, homosexuals was hardly distinct from either Cuba or dozens of other countries.

As for any supposed pre-Castro 'tolerance' for homosexuality in Cuba, this was confined exclusively to Havana's lucrative gay prostitution industry, the vast majority of clients being wealthy Americans and Cubans.

As with most Latin American countries, machismo culture traditionally generated homophobia in Cuba, especially in rural areas, but much of that has eased since the 1990s.

Castro's typical homophobia, a product of his time and culture, needs to be seen in that light, not as something inherent to communism. Also, the sustained US terrorist campaign to overthrow the government highly aggravated Cuba's paranoia against anything or anyone who threatened Cuban political unity - gays were lumped in with that threat. Even so, in the late 1960s, Castro had a change of heart and actively moved to end all vestiges of gay persecution under the regime.

By 1980, Cuba's Ministry of Culture had come to actively reject homophobic bigotry and adopted the policy of education to accept homosexuality as a variant of human sexuality. In over 30 years, there has been no evidence to support the prevailing US propaganda that homosexual persecution is government policy.
Posted by Killarney, Saturday, 17 December 2016 4:47:31 PM
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Not sure of his legacy yet. Won't really until they find all the mass graves.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 17 December 2016 6:04:42 PM
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