Everybody is entitled to an opinion, Mr. Donnelly, irrespective of their occupation; not that it matters in SA, because politicians have again ignored what the people want and have been guided by their own, dated and selfish views. As for judging the trustworthiness of people merely on what they do for a living - rubbish. There is no sane reason for pollsters to ask people which profession they most trust, and respondents react, as they always do to intrusive interrogation to get it over and done with. Anyway, the recent case of a nurse murdering elderly people because she had a 'pathological hatred of old people' in nursing homes, and many previous cases, doesn't give one much encouragement about nurses.

"I fear, along with many others, that the impeccable reputation of nurses and their standing in the community is going to be greatly damaged by their union's one-sided political campaign on euthanasia. Such an outcome will be tragic"

Thanks Greg for caring about nurses but if their union representatives persist in promoting, supporting and engaging in euthanasia, they will have forfeited the respect people like you have long given them. They will instead come to be seen as "executioners" of whom their patients will be rightly afraid. There have already been too many prosecutions of nurses who have engaged in actively killing their patients. It's doubtful however just how many nurses think the same way as their Union leaders, who increasingly over the years have come to be seen as representing themselves more than their members. This was the case in the latter years of my nursing career, during which time I had always been a faithful, financial Union member. The ANF then was seen to have been politically biased and infiltrated by social engineers. The current low membership base may well reflect this. It's debatable just how many would be familiar with the Nightingale Pledge nurses have so sincerely taken over the years ...to conserve life, alleviate suffering and promote health. Time for a takeover of the hierarchy of the Nursing Federation before a few bad apples succeed in destroying the ethos of the nursing profession.

This is just so typical of a few union (tail trying to wag the dog) heavies, who purport to speak for the entire membership!

Simply put, if we want to know what the RANK AND FILE THINK!?

Then the only conclusive way to establish that!? Is via an independently conducted secret ballot! And may establish the mood for voluntary euthanasia is not that strong?

Particularly when instruments like a health directive or living will, obtain almost or indeed the very same outcome! Look, folk are routinely euthanized in our hospitals any day of the week!

If you want that outcome? Ensure your written final health directive, includes instruction for complete pain relief! And maybe, nil by mouth? You can only speak for yourself, not everyone else!

That way, it'll be entirely your own independent decision and made while you still have all your marbles!

I could have died twice in recent years, Pain filled PE's (the most common cause of sudden death in older folk?) and in both lungs! Followed by a hemorrhagic stroke; (often lethal) and while life is not a bowl of cherries, I'm glad I'm still here; thanks to my Doctor and many caring nurses;( Angels of mercy) and in my small way, contributing?
Alan B.

Hey, Greg! Why is Al Qaeda more compassionate than you?

The 9/11 hijackers got to die instantly.

I have a question for Greg too:
What happens when those who care don't seem to care quite enough despite their good reputation and are in favour of forcing terminally ill patients to suffer agonising pain for where there is no relief available until they slowly die a scary and painful natural death, having been denied the help they wanted and needed to die a quick and soft death surrounded by their loving family?

Don't be silly Celiva...or scared. In today's medical and nursing world there is no need for anyone to "suffer agonising pain for where there is no relief available until they slowly die a scary and painful natural death, having been denied the help they wanted and needed to die a quick and soft death surrounded by their loving family?" All of what you feel will be missing, is offered today with wonderful Palliative Care Services ..a "specialty" these days. The dying need to be treated as special...not put down like animals! Which is what will happen if the State licenses doctors to kill. Change your doctor if you feel this will be how he/she will treat you.

What has this got to do with nurses? Voluntary euthanasia has little to nothing to do with nurses.

The article is implying that, without the enforcement of law, nurses would go around putting their patients to death by compassion. Why on earth would a nurse want to do that? For a nurse, a patient is a patient. Nothing to do with them personally.

Voluntary euthanasia is almost always committed by the patients themselves and/or a family member or close friend, with the permission of the patient.

The fact that the Australian Nursing & Midwifery Federation of South Australia supports voluntary euthanasia does not mean that they are giving nurses a free pass to play God. It's a political stance - no more, no less.

https://nypost.com/2012/12/09/diary-of-an-intensive-care-nurse/

Your premise is a bit rich Greg and you aren't filling me with confidence about the standard of pollie we have these days. Do you have a particular religious bent?

I doubt any nurse supports killing as such. But I'm pretty sure most of them are familiar with death. You know, that thing that visits us all at sometime and ends our lives.

Those who openly support Euthanasia: the painless ending of life of a patient suffering from an incurable and painful disease or in an irreversible coma. Do so from a humanitarian point of view. Most people would. I'm sure Andrew Denton and you would be political allies, I'm sure he comes to this issue from a position of experience.

Even Vets look at quality of life for our beloved pets, surely we have no less love for our fellow man.

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Danny, you are living in a fantasy world if you think that any palliative care can remove all pain for all patients. There are some patients who cannot be helped.

I would like you to listen to all the tracks of the Andrew Denton interviews to open your eyes a little.

There is a very thorough process in place in countries where euthanasia is legal. I am from the Netherlands, my mother and my uncle who have put themselves on the euthanasia list in case something happens to them, have had to see a psychologist, their GP and an independent GP. They also have to revisit that psychologist on a regular basis to check if there have been any changes in their wishes to be on the list.
My mother put herself on the list in case she may suffer from severe dementia in the future AND suffer a terminal illness.
It gives her so much peace of mind to know that she won't have to suffer a scary and maybe lonely death one day.
It may never happen that she will need to use the services.

Did you know that the vast majority of patients who requested euthanasia did not get permission? Because the team (dr, psychologist and an overlooking euthanasia team) decide that there is still an outlook and hope for a number of these patients?

And did you know that many of the patients who did get permission do not go through with it?
It is just a lot of peace of mind for them to know that a painless and quick death is available to them, and that thought often relaxes patients so much that they can cope with life a little longer.

Well said. Exactly when did the Nurses Federation ask their members about the issue? The union leaders are using the Federation to promote their own political views, which is unconscionable. Presenting themselves as the only health care providers who understand compassion and suffering is nonsense.