I might have misspoken, and overstated my level of concern in the last post. Not about things environmental, but about the misleading nature of Leo’s and Mhaze’s posts. Leo’s posts are so bad that you can hear the tinfoil hat rustling on his head. I don’t actually need to refute Leo — but rather will just stand back and let him foam at the mouth and utterly discredit his kind by the sheer madness and discourtesy of his behaviour. Go for it Leo!

But Mhaze,
you know that global warming is based on the laws of physics and chemistry, not religion, don’t you? Exctinctions are also a real threat, especially with what we know about how apex predators can effect a whole ecology, just like the famous Yellowstone wolves! EG: How many tigers have already gone extinct?
http://www.tigers.org.za/extinct-tiger-subspecies.html

What animals and amphibians and insects *have* gone extinct last century?

Here’s a few.
* Arabian ostrich
Arizona jaguar
Bali tiger
Barbary lion
Caribbean monk seal
Caspian tiger
Culebra Island parrot
Falkland Island fox
Grévy's zebra
Heath hen
Ivory-billed woodpecker
Japanese wolf
Red owl
Palestinian painted frog
Paradise parrot
Passenger pigeon
Saint Helena giant earwig
Tasmanian wolf
Kona giant looper moth
Pink-headed duck
Dawson's caribou
New Zealand grayling
Bulldog rat
Wake Island rail
Guam flying fox
Syrian onager
Round Island boa
Schomburgk's deer
Newfoundland white wolf
Mexican silver grizzly
Florida black wolf
Cape Verde skink
Kamchatkan bear
California grizzly
Barbados raccoon
Portuguese ibex
Gastric brooding frog
Rufus gazelle
Labrador duck
Cape red hartebeest
June sucker
Greenland reindeer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Animals_of_the_20th_Century

But of course, there’s nothing to worry about… because… ancient religions... or something. Are you beginning to see the difference between a statement of scientific fact, and the character-assassinations you present as ‘arguments’? Data. Trends. Extrapolate. Precaution. Plan. Prevent! Respect science please, it’s not hard.

"Ah yes Julian, females do many things, except rape their male partners. Sigh, weep. Whatever happened to equality? Sigh, weep.
Alan B.

Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 2 November 2016 11:02:11 AM"

Interesting topic that. I've seen some material on "made to penetrate" based on a US CDC survey focussed on sexual assault. "Made to penetrate" was not a subject I'd heard any detail on before this year and apparently not treated as rape under law (which has a big impact on rape counts). Sort of knew it happened but never considered it to be something that would happen much.

A bunch of interesting stuff in the CDC material, and some big questions about the survey in other sources but what really surprises me is how close the numbers are in places given the perceived differences in attitude to sex between the genders. Especially the numbers for the 12 months before taking the survey.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm

Some of the weaknesses in the survey are covered at http://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/

R0bert

The school dunce says:” . Leo’s posts are so bad that you can hear the tinfoil hat rustling on his head—“
This shows his undoubted ignorance, but further than that, it shows stupidity.
Even a school child, like Max, should not be so stupid as to make unhinged statements .
You really are a loser, Max, when you talk such nonsense.

//Over a lifetime we each use 100,000 tonnes of fresh water, 750 tonnes of soil, 720 tonnes of metals, five billion energy units//

5 billion 'energy units'. Energy units? WTF? Would you care to go out on a limb and specify what those units are, Julian? Electron volts? Joules? Calories? British thermal units? Tons of trinitrotoluene? It makes a big difference, you see. The energy equivalent of 5 gigatons of TNT is a good deal more than the 5 billion eV, for example.

//The poisoned planet: Every day, every child on our planet is poisoned by man-made toxins. We, and all life on Earth, are mired in a toxic swamp of 250 billion tonnes of annual chemical emissions from human activity.//

Of course they are. That's why people in the old days used to live so much longer than they do nowa... no, hang on, I've got that arse-about, haven't I? People are living much longer and healthier lives than they ever have previously. So it seems this 'toxic swamp' is growing increasingly less dangerous over time.

Which makes sense, when you think about, because we know a lot more about toxicology and how to protect ourselves. Matchmakers (as is in people who make the sort of matches you light a candle with) don't die of 'Phossy jaw' anymore. Milliners don't die of mercury poisoning. Women don't use mercury or lead compounds as make-up; artists don't use them as pigments. House paint is lead free and so is petrol. Radium is no longer used for glow in the dark watches. And so on.

From where I sit, arguments that the modern urban environment is more toxic than it was back in the good old days, despite all evidence to the contrary, are one step short of the paranoid delusions entertained by some tinfoil-hat wearers that water fluoridation and vaccination are deliberate attempts by the Freemasons to poison us all.

Thanks, Toni, for the analysis of the article, to specify some of the details of Julian’s dishonesty and lies.
His method of attracting attention is quite disgraceful, and some dunces will believe him..

Hi Toni Lavis,
you make some valid points about how we've regulated and prevented harm from older chemicals. That's fine, and something to be celebrated.

But what about the new? What about endocrine disruptor's as just one example?
"Anthropogenic chemicals which can disrupt the hormonal (endocrine) systems of wildlife species are currently a major cause for concern. Reproductive hormone-receptor systems appear to be especially vulnerable. In the past few years, numerous effects of endocrine disrupting chemicals on wildlife have emerged including changes in the sex of riverine fish, reproductive failure in birds and abnormalities in the reproductive organs of alligators and polar bears. Much less is known regarding endocrine disruption in marine invertebrates, the key structural and functional components of marine ecosystems."
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0025326X99001150

While I'm a fan of nuclear power, what about nuclear bombs? What about open air testing of a few decades ago that has left every generation since with a legacy of a certain amount of fallout in their bones? (See the SBS documentary, "Twisting the tail of the dragon").

These are just 2 examples: there are many others, such as the size of the Asian Brown Cloud, the fact that we still burn coal that is 4000 times more dangerous than nuclear, and many others? Focussing on the one toxic storm that passed and ignoring the new oncoming storm that is rushing towards us is like running out in the eye of a cyclone and yelling, "Come on out everyone, the weather's fine!"