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The need for renewable electricity : Comments

By Mike Pope, published 7/10/2016

If Mr Turnbull had his way on continued use of coal, government would fail to realize its Paris commitment.

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It is nice to see, flea, that the U.S.Senate is going after Attorney General Schneidermann for details of his dealings with other AGs, and green groups, in relation to his pursuit of Exxon Mobil :” House Committee on Science, Space and Technology issued its own subpoenas. In mid-July the committee, led by Rep. Lamar Smith (R., Texas), asked the attorneys general to produce their communications with environmental groups and the Obama administration about their investigations.”
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-climate-prosecutors-cant-dodge-congress-forever-1471818648
The Senate will look at the pursuit of Exxon Mobil, to consider any improper actions by Schneidermann and his cohorts. His motivation was obviously improper. He refers to “deniers” when he knows that there is no science to deny.
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 8:31:20 PM
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Leo

AS suggested before Watts got it wrong with the article about sea ice extent.

This is of interest in relation to ExxonMobil:

http://www.wired.com/2016/09/governments-top-financial-regulator-investigating-exxonmobil/

Quote:

"On September 20, the Wall Street Journal broke news that the US Securities and Exchange Commission—the highest federal financial regulator—is formally investigating Exxon’s accounting. The company stands accused of ignoring and possibly even lying about how market fluctuations affect its profits."
Posted by ant, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 9:01:33 PM
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This is an extract from the flea’s reference:
“ the company stands accused of knowingly pushing an anti-climate agenda. If the SEC gets the goods on Exxon, “
The first sentence refers to the case being investigated by Schneidermann, which has fallen over,(see my previous post) The second sentence starts with”If” The flea works, like any ignoramus, on “guilty until proven innocent”
You could not be more wrong, could you, flea.
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 10:13:08 PM
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Craig,

I see that there is yet another area in which you are blissfully ignorant, i.e. statistics.

The requirement for quantitative measures such as GDP, LCOE etc are that the calculations are:
Relatively simple,
Repeatable / Consistent
Have a meaning value for investors
While the LCOE does not address many factors such as availability and cash flow it is solid indicator of cost vs yield.

The LACE indicator meets almost none of these criteria. For the construction of a generator of identical cost and yield. The LACE is a complex calculation that differs widely on different applications and even for the same application based on different scenarios, and as a result is meaningless for comparison between projects and meaningless to investors.

P.S. Here is an excerpt of an Indian telephone directory that has the same relevance as the references you have been posting:

A.N. SINGH 06438-223524 PATHARCHAPTI,, -, 814153 Jharkhand
AJAY KR. SINGH 06438-223783 -, -, 814153 Jharkhand
AJEET KUMAR SINGH 06438-234252 S/O LATE S.L.SINGH, -, 814149 Jharkhand
AMARJEET SINGH 06438-274648 -, -, 814146 Jharkhand
ANADI PD. SINGH 06438-234266 -, -, 814149 Jharkhand
ANAND KUMAR SINGH 06438-234314 S/O LT PASUPATI SINGH, VILL:=CHAUD CHORA, 814149 Jharkhand
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 13 October 2016 8:53:41 AM
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I suggest you take it up with the US Energy Information Agency, SM, I just quoted their words. I wouldn't be so arrogant as to suggest I know better than they do, but then, I'm interested in learning, not in pushing the ricketty barrow that you're attached to.

I'll bid you farewell, I'd like to say it's been interesting, but really it's just been a tedious exercise in trying to polish the turd of your self-interested wilful ignorance.

Do yourself and whoever you work for a favour and move into the 21st century, remaining stuck 100 years out of date isn't doing anyone any good.
Posted by Craig Minns, Thursday, 13 October 2016 9:01:41 AM
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Leo

The article says ExxonMobil is accused of....
When writing about ExxonMobil I use the word "alleged".

I have never stated they are " guilty until proven innocent". I have quoted a number of sources in relation to the matter in the past.

Incidentally, I've been aware of the Republicans trying to subpoena materials from State Attorneys for some time; its not surprising as fossil fuel companies are very generous with their donations to Republicans.

An example:

https://thinkprogress.org/pa-senator-touts-the-future-of-coal-and-natural-gas-in-bid-for-re-election-9f15b8e377f9#.16jzlim86

Quote:

"Toomey is attempting to paint McGinty, the first woman to chair the White House Council on Environmental Quality, as a clean energy profiteer, but his own campaign is leaning heavily on fossil fuel donations, including from companies and individuals in the coal and natural gas industries."
Posted by ant, Thursday, 13 October 2016 10:15:44 AM
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