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Australia's global 'exit': tribalism and international institutions : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 16/9/2016

Hanson and Roberts hail from a long line of populists suspicious of the 'international institution', which they regard as something of a meddling, threatening Frankenstein.

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To Binoy Kampfmark.

The UN has become an overly expensive, bloated, corrupt, and politically correct organisation that has become almost completely irrelevant. But since your own job with the Australian government is similar to the UN's, it is hardly surprising that you are sympathetic to the overpaid, bloated UN fat cats.

The UN's refugee policy consists of demanding that everybody in the Third World has a fundamental human right to enter the western world and have the populations of the west support them. That does not go down well with the western populations, which is why all over the western world, the people are voting for anti immigration and anti "refugee" parties.

The UN's Human Rights policy is a joke. To start with, there are two policies. One for "humans", and one for "indigenous humans", with the indigenous humans being more equal than just plain, ordinary humans. And then there is the fact that in the sacred cause of non discrimination, such well known champions of human rights such as Cuba and Saudi Arabia were members of the Human Rights council. And you wonder why westerners laugh at the UN?

Then there was the little matter of the former head of the UN Kofi Annan's son making millions for himself by breaking the UN's oil sanctions on Iraq.

Then we get down to finances. The UN's primary purpose seems to be to never stop criticising the western countries who fund it. The last I heard, most of the third world countries were either well and truly in arrears, or they just never paid their dues.

Lastly we come down to the fact that so many UN diplomats in New York openly float the law and park their cars anywhere they choose, knowing that their UN status makes them untouchable. And these are the characters who want to tell the rest of us how we should conduct our lives?

Australia is a sovereign nation and we do not need thousands of corrupt, lawless, and out of touch foreigners from dysfunctional societies telling us how to run our country.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 16 September 2016 8:48:48 AM
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I have a warm glow that glimmers in the corner of my otherwise hard heart for this author. :-)

But I also have a corresponding warm glow that glimmers in the corner of my otherwise hard heart for Pauline Hanson too; and Clive Palmer also, who is now in judgement and sentencing, all at the one, before the tribunal of the great and honourable (dis) Rupert Murdoch's Australian newspaper.
(Why do I waste a thousand dollars of fun-money a year, on this overweighted ideological "dia-tribune" (yahoo for poetic licence), of Neo Liberal economic propaganda)?

The crime of these two renegades, as best as I can conclude from the atrocious bigoted one-eyed view of life, through the eyes of the editor of the Australian, is an audacious and now tenuous, hold on another reality, opposed to the elite and over pampered life and times of the monied and ruling gluttonous, political classes swinging on leather lounges in Canberra, sucking up the good life in the LNP and Labor Party. Your days are numbered.

Thank you Pauline and Clive, you do Australia and Australians especially, a great service.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 16 September 2016 9:13:47 AM
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About time the the democratic servant of the god-blessed US of A got a tar and feathering. Britain and the great dollars bought freedom without German naziness and now the excitable natives are restless.
Queensland is an Asian Raghead swamp and bulldozers will clear-fell the green bogs , the mosques and coral pinkie lotus smokers.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 16 September 2016 9:51:15 AM
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Beware, I'm growing to like you "Nicknamenick"...
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 16 September 2016 10:11:56 AM
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@Binoy Kampmark: "... he occupies the ground of the conspiracy theorist and fearful citizen, an individual who decided that there are facts not worth having, and others worth making up."

That was a great line! :-)

And what pray can we, the powerless plebs, do about that great behemoth Institution, the Liberal party of NSW?

Bursting at the seems with a populist membership crowing all up 4,000 souls from a state voter registry of 4,837,870 (in 2013) there is nothing to stop this out of control juggernaut whose entrenched institutional power apparently Rules the Nation like Princedom via Canberra (and not NSW alone).

That equates to a party Membership (developing ideas and policy platforms and handing out how to vote cards) of 0.08% of voters.

That number is only slightly higher the drink driving limit! :-) Obscure sporting clubs have more members than the NSW Liberal Party.

And don't get me started on the Wentworth Forum and the North Sydney Forum (across the nation) that seeks donations from the 1% for specific Liberal politicians re-election.

Or to use a Roberts turn of phrase:
"Australian values and way of life are also at risk from insidious institutions such as the undemocratic unelected swill that is the NSW Branch of the Liberal Party."

(for comparison, there were ~40,000 members of the Labor Party in NSW in 2013 - The IPA is a non-profit company, which has a restricted membership of 54 people.)

a Crikey snippet fyi from 2013:

"Gone are the days when the major parties had well over 100,000 members each (the Liberals once pushed 200,000). Nowadays, no party has more than 50,000 members; anecdotes abound of sparse meetings, attended mainly by older people."

"There are more Scouts than Liberals, there are more Freemasons than ALP members, and there are more people in the Rebels Motorcycle Club than in Katter’s Australian Party (although membership may overlap on that one)"

"Crikey found the Freemasons were far more open and transparent on their membership than the Liberals, Nationals or Labor."

The Greens (nationally) have 9500

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/07/18/the-partys-over-which-clubs-have-the-most-members/
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Posted by Thomas O'Reilly, Friday, 16 September 2016 10:22:13 AM
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Posted by LEGO: "Australia is a sovereign nation and we do not need thousands of corrupt, lawless, and out of touch foreigners from dysfunctional societies telling us how to run our country."

That's very true. We as a nation do not need that nor seek it. I cannot even imagine one Australian citizen who would disagree with such a self-evident truism.

However, maybe LEGO really meant or wanted to say:

Australia is a sovereign democratic based nation and we do not need thousands of corrupt, untrustworthy, psychopathic, narcissistic and out of touch fundamentalist bigoted white men and women Christian zealots, mainly from dysfunctional families, telling us how to run our country.
Posted by Thomas O'Reilly, Friday, 16 September 2016 10:28:46 AM
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