ttbn: WTF are you raving on about? Did I press one of your buttons? What questions? I think I've made my views on euthanasia fairly clear? And am mostly against assisted suicide!

As far as I know, you don't control this site or are able to censor any content! And probably emphasize why voluntary euthanasia ought not be allowed, least mentally unwell use it to simply and cunningly top themselves?

Pain relief and palliative care is all most need or want? And if you don't want medical assistance to extend your time, you need to create a living will, with specific instructions for your end of life treatment!

Euthanasia can never ever be allowed to morph into a remedy for clinical or age depression, or hopelessness! I agree with O sung wu, where there's life there is hope!
Alan B.

Hi there TTBN...

I think you possess a very healthy outlook on this whole euthanasia issue. It's a very tough question and as I said earlier on, I don't believe there's any right or wrong answer.

However, if in the near future governments consider strictly legalising euthanasia, well I'd personally not condemn it nor would I support it. Every human on earth should have ultimate control over his or her's own life ! One person might consider seeking euthanasia, while another would never even consider it ? It's a very personal decision, and even close family members shouldn't seek to 'suborn' or influence a relative's decision, one way or the other. To do otherwise is completely immoral.

Hi there ALAN B...

A very simple axiom I grant you, 'While there's life there's hope' but it's very true. Life is so very precious, we only have one go at it, and it's definitely not a dress rehearsal, so if we bugger it up, well that's all there is to it, unfortunately ? Too many (young) people throw their lives away, sadly and needlessly ?

Alan B.

What questions? Have a look at my post 1/9/16, 2.34pm in the "Meet the family" comments. But of course, you are too busy blathering to bother with what anyone else says, so forget it. You are a pain in the backside. You probably have a similar pain - your head is so far up yours.

I've just emerged from a death bed vigil of a good friend of many years, so to me, this is an appropriate subject.
At death, there is exposed exasperation with the dying process. An anxiousness to "get it over with", it may appear as a statement towards those ends; but in this case it was fleeting!

Maybe the 85% of Australians agreeing with euthanasia are the 85% with inadequate health care cover. What I observe on a daily bases, is the abandonment of the chronically ill and dying in our community, by an over pampered and greedy medical profession. No money no service!
There is an underlying hatred of this cruel system!

One such example is the woman acquaintance, who was ignored under these rules of service to the rich, until she identified as Aboriginal. Using the "closing the gap" as a lever to gain entry to an otherwise unaffordable medical profession, it was staggering what doors were suddenly opened wide!
From that moment on, her life was made comfortable, with no medical attention withheld through lack of affordability.

The author is either unaware or chooses to ignore the realities of the disparities between rich and poor, and the quality of health service people are likely to receive in their final stages of life. Life is very bleak and painful for the poor!

Church duty to be involved?
"Testamentary bequests to the church became compulsory rather than simply permitted. The church combined the final confession with the act of directing the distribution of property at death. In the West, the church established its own form for executing a
testament in accordance with Canon law. These testaments had to be executed in the presence of a priest or other religious official—but were otherwise lacking many of the formalities required by Roman law. The church worked to abolish many aspects of the
Roman law aimed at protecting the freedom of the testator—such as the requirement of disinterested witnesses—in order to enhance the likelihood that the church would benefit from a will. “[M]any councils in France, England, and Spain made it a law for the
laity, that they should not testamentate otherwise than in the presence of their priests.”_ Louisiana Law Center.

ttbn: #1 my voting history would suggest I'm anything but left wing!
#2 that said, I'm not a extreme right wing Ideologue who simply refuses to look at any evidence that conflicts with his views or inculcated belief system!

#3 I don't intend to be cross examined on evidenced based views by an extremely rude homophone!

#4 I hope that answers your inquiry?

#5 I don't suffer fools gladly, but leave no doubt for those still able and more importantly, able to engage in rational critical thinking!

#6 common courtesy and civility costs nothing, you should try it sometime, if you would have your asinine ignorance responded to, perhaps!?

#7 My patience with fanatics and their flat earth world view is very limited, particularly those who resort to abuse as soon as they've lost the argument!

#8 I will not discriminate against folks, because of an accident of birth!

#9 you need to at least try to remain on topic for this thread; after all OLO is not a forum for you particular stone age beliefs!

#10 I believe I left nobody in any doubt what my evidence based views are on SSM! Those that stoically refuse in any way shape or form to look at the irrefutable evidence are not worth debating! I mean what's the point?
Alan B.