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The Clexit Founding Statement : Comments
By Viv Forbes, published 2/8/2016If the Paris climate accord is ratified, or enforced locally by compliant governments, it will strangle the leading economies of the world with pointless carbon taxes and costly climate and energy policies.
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Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 2 August 2016 9:54:23 AM
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"Clexit" sounds good to me, and the chances of it occurring are looking better, given the severe pants-kicking the apologies for politicians are getting.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 11:37:20 AM
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' The world must abandon this suicidal Global Warming crusade. Man does not and cannot control the climate. Climate and weather are always changing, but apart from cyclic spikes of El Nino warming, there has been no measurable warming for twenty years.'
thanks Viv, you obviously have not been dumbed down by all the propaganda and consensus 'science'. A good breath of fresh air. Thankfully I no longer have to pay tax on it. the only flat earthers here are those that hold to false religion ir gw religion. What a group of shonskers. Posted by runner, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 12:08:42 PM
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I too am all for Clexit.
Posted by anti-green, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 12:16:19 PM
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Meanwhile this essay is very interesting:
http://www.flassbeck-economics.com/how-climate-change-is-rapidly-taking-the-planet-apart Posted by Daffy Duck, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 12:34:04 PM
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runner, you seem to have abandoned Christianity for the false religion of climate denialsim!
Like all false religions it's based on lies, and you're enthusiastically spreading them. Your claim that "Man does not and cannot control the climate" only holds if we sick to a very narrow definition of "control". We do have a lot of influence on the climate. Your claim that "apart from cyclic spikes of El Nino warming, there has been no measurable warming for twenty years" is a blatant lie. When you disregard the effects of the El Niņo spikes, there is a very clear warming trend. To get the cherry picked data that the "no measurable warming" claim is based on, you have to disregard the most recent El Niņo spike but not the 1998 one. BTW it's generally agreed that one of the effects of the effects of global warming will be more El Niņo events. I urge you to renounce the lies you're currently spreading and return to the truth! Abandon the suicidal attempts to defend the actions that are causing global warming, and accept our duty to take care of what God has given us. Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 1:37:13 PM
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He seems to be saying if we don't have fossil fuels our economies will dry up and die? Nothing could be further from the truth, given investment in vastly cheaper carbon free or carbon neutral alternatives could quite literally turbocharge the economies that adopt them first!
Yes, that could harm a few folk in the hip pocket or bank balances? Just not sovereign nations who refuse to carry the can for debt laden foreign speculators!
And we should begin now as we intend to continue, with the roll out of recharging stations for electric vehicles, the creation of a nuclear powered national fleet, the conversion of our power stations to very localized, cheaper than coal, state owned and operated thorium power, which we have enough of to power the world for 700 years!?
Other alternatives are proven solar thermal options, which as evidenced, can be rollout as very large scale projects, at comparable cost to similar sized coal-fired projects, with the only huge remaining difference, the solar thermal option uses forever free fuel!
Finally, we need to stop wasting our waste! Projected population numbers compel that outcome. Every family produces enough biological waste if converted, to completely power their domiciles 24/7 for far less than they pay now!
Moreover, if the traditional diesel engine is replaced by a super silent ceramic fuel cell, the vastly superior energy coefficient will double the available useable electrical power, produce endless free hot water, a salable surplus and several other useful byproducts; Like a completely sanitised,carbon rich soil improver and sanitized reusable water loaded to the gills with costly fertiliser, with the exhaust product, mostly pristine water vapor.
Alan B.