Hi Toni,

If God is in everything, then we are all God.

And if God doesn't exist, neither do we. Nothing does. I'm not typing this and you're not reading it. Nothing exists.

Isn't it fun to fart around with bare and trivial ideas, without any need for reliance on evidence in the slightest. In fact, evidence is just so de rigueur, only for shallow thinkers. Some of us are just too sophisticated to worry about evidence.

What a total waste of time and space.

Joe

<<<<<<Divine knowledge cannot be communicated, but why should this render my religion invalid?>>>>>

<<<Because this is what every religion claims.>>>

If you cannot communicate divine knowledge then there is no point of your religion, as communicating divine knowledge is what a religion is.

It assumes:

1. to know Divine knowledge.
2. To be able to discuss and act in a way consistent with that knowledge

When you talk about getting closer to God it assumes you have some idea where and what God is. ie. You must have some divine knowledge. And the exponents of your religion can communicate what that it.

Since, you claim the opposite then your religion must be invalid.

«Every claim you make is susceptible to evidence»
Nevertheless, not every statement is a claim.

OK, give me an example a statement which is not a claim as it relates to your religious beliefs.

//And if God doesn't exist, neither do we. Nothing does. I'm not typing this and you're not reading it. Nothing exists.//

Cogito ergo sum, Joe. I definitely exist even if you're all figments of my imagination. Although I don't think you are.

//Some of us are just too sophisticated to worry about evidence.//

That's a shame. I just found some incontrovertible video evidence of God's existence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL7FcvEydqg

See? So much for Yuyutsu's claims of non-existence. And he definitely isn't me (or you, or Yuyutsu): we're not that noodly.

Hi Tony,

Maybe we would be all figments of each other's imaginations, IF there was an 'other'.

And if we are all of God, then we ARE each other. i.e. we are each a figment of our own imagination ?

All very time-absorbing. Collecting number plate numbers can be fun too.

Joe

//All very time-absorbing. Collecting number plate numbers can be fun too.//

I prefer trainspotting.

Dear Razor,

«If you cannot communicate divine knowledge then there is no point of your religion, as communicating divine knowledge is what a religion is.»

Now we may have possibly got to the bottom of this misunderstanding - unrealistic expectations.

Why should one expect religion to communicate divine knowledge? Visit a psychic charlatan if that's what you are after... Next you may expect religion to fix your tap... why not call a plumber instead if that's what you are after?

«It assumes:»...«When you talk about getting closer to God it assumes you have some idea...»

Who is "it"?

«some idea where and what God is»

Impossible!

To have an idea about anything, the object of your thoughts must be limited.

«Since, you claim the opposite then your religion must be invalid.»

I cannot even fix your washing-machine, I don't even know in detail how it works. So?

«OK, give me an example a statement which is not a claim as it relates to your religious beliefs.»

You are God.

(this is not a claim because claims, according to the dictionaries, are always about things, whereas you are not a thing and God is not a thing)