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Perpetuating propaganda plagues Palestinian peace process : Comments

By David Singer, published 13/5/2016

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David,
The reason why you wont place any link to maps is essentially because there is no Palestinian areas at all on the proposed map you would provide, such as the Faisal-Weizmann map am I correct?
You argue Jordon is Palestine and that the Palestinians have no right to be there at all (in Israel) is that correct?
Is that any different at all to that in which we're told the Palestinians argue that Israel has no right to exist?
If so how is it different?

Your 'Jordon is Palestine' agenda is simply a legal avenue to solve the legal problem of Palestinians being considered stateless in my opinion, and a way forward in stopping any 2 state solution.

- It works towards an underlying goal of continued settlement building and ethnically cleansing the entire area of non-Jews, which is as racist as anything.

You don't have the right to settle (that you claim) if settling means that you first must be in breach of international law by bulldozing other peoples homes in order to settle.

These people have a right to self determination, your just claiming immunity from this because of the Israel clause.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 16 May 2016 10:59:59 AM
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Update:

Jewish Voice for Peace continues to fail to respond to this article.

Perhaps after reading the following article you may understand why the deafening silence.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2016...
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 22 May 2016 3:10:24 PM
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#Armchair critic

You state:
"I'm not sure the Palestinians ever had any say in the matters"

This is yet another piece of classic Arab propaganda that you have apparently adopted without adequate investigation.

Please refer to the chronology set out in the following link which will show you that they had plenty of say but their appeals were always rejected.

http://btd.palestine-studies.org/content/chronology-1919-1936

Had the Arabs accepted the 78% of Palestine offered to them free of Jews in 1922 by the League of Nations - the Middle East would be such a different place today.

But their leaders have always shot for 100% bringing untold suffering on both Arabs and Jews for the last 95 years.

Until the Palestinian Arabs reject the current leadership of both the PLO and Hamas who still hunger for that 100% - as did their former leaders between 1922 to 1964 - the Jewish-Arab conflict will continue.

Until the Palestinian Arabs living in the West Bank and Gaza are allowed to have free and fair elections to determine their future leaders to replace the failed PLO and Hamas leaderships they will be consigned to the political wilderness.

My Jordan is Palestine agenda is designed to end up with the Arabs having about 80% of Palestine in one State instead of the current 78% - and the Jews the remaining 20% in one State instead of the current 17%.

That is the kind of two state solution proposed in 1922, 1937, and 1947 and always available with the stroke of an Arab League pen at any time between 1948-1967.

That is the solution I have been advocating since about 1975 - well before the 1993 Oslo Accords and the proposal of President Bush in 2002 to create a second Arab State in former Palestine in addition to Jordan - both of which are effectively now dead and buried.

Do you find this agenda objectionable and if so for what reason? Are you - like the PLO and Hamas - agitating for the total 100% of former Palestine to go to the Arabs and nil to the Jews?
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 22 May 2016 10:53:40 PM
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