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Poets saving Palestine: I Remember My Name : Comments

By Stuart Rees, published 28/4/2016

What non-violent response can there be to the violence and hatred, the killings and the dispossession, the endlessly cruel siege of Gaza, the thuggery of settlers and the Netanyahu rants?

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Beats the hell out of me Stuart. Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 28 April 2016 9:47:56 AM
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"Conditions on the West Bank, in Gaza, in East Jerusalem and in myriad Palestinian refugee camps are monstrous.  What non-violent response can there be to the violence and hatred, the killings and the dispossession, the endlessly cruel siege of Gaza, the thuggery of settlers and the Netanyahu rants."

You've got it the wrong way around, pal. The conditions have been brought on themselves by the Palestinians and their "thuggery", "cruel siege" of Israel and attacks on a democracy; by their Islamic "rants" and threats to wipe Israel from the face of the Earth. Take your poetry and "peace" talk and shove it.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 28 April 2016 11:10:05 AM
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'What non-violent response can there be to the violence and hatred, the killings and the dispossession, the endlessly cruel siege of Gaza, the thuggery of settlers and the Netanyahu rants?'

tell the truth instead of lies might be a good start Stuart.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 28 April 2016 12:54:08 PM
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Looks like you are another one of the "Muslims are victims" push, Stuart.

Reality check, mate.

Islam spread across the world through the successful use of violence and terrorism, genocide, and the forcible conversion of people from other faiths. It has been trying to conquer Europe for 1400 years and it failed militarily, but it is now going to win through immigration and birth rate differentials. Meanwhile, back at he ranch, people like you are living in a fantasy land bubble.

Israel must exist in order to be a safe haven for the Jews who will soon be fleeing Muslim Europe. Where the Christians, atheists and homosexuals will flee to is anybody's guess. If you want to see what will happen to the non Muslim Europeans in Europe, have a look at what is happening right now in the Middle East, and remember that once upon a time, all of North Africa and the Levant was primarily Christian.

How you can fell sorry for the world's greatest genocide artists when one of their victims turns the tables on them is beyond me. I suppose you just think that supporting Muslims, and always opposing your own people's interests, is what the fashionable people do. And belonging to that caste is all that matters to you. Memo to Stuart. The attacks in Paris were directed at your own fashionable, trendy demographic. You trendies may love the Muslims, but they don't like you.

There are 1.3 billion Muslims throughout the world, Stuart. Worldwide military intelligence sources all agree that around 15% to 25% of them are just as fanatical as the Nazis, the Khmer Rouge, or the various Communist parties who once enslaved and murdered tens of millions. That means that there are around 180 million to 300 million people who really do want to destroy the society you live in and enslave you in a cleric dominated caliphate. Wise up and support your own civilisation, or you had better buy a prayer mat and a Koran.

And shove your poetry where your mother never kissed you.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 29 April 2016 4:00:55 AM
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LEGO,
Nothing the Palestinians do wrong makes what Israel does right.

"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty."
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 30 April 2016 5:40:02 PM
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God there is some garbage on the forum today. Armchair Critic the Palestinians have been given a number of chances to stop the violence & prosper in peace. Their leadership has continually found continuing hostilities the best way for them to maintain their power base, & the Palestinians have been too gutless or stupid to chuck them out.

Could you honestly say that if Israel ever lost one of these wars, they would not be ethnically cleansed from the face of the middle east. Would ISIS leave even one head on an Israeli shoulder?

That being the case, I think they actually show remarkable restraint in the face of continual provocation.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 30 April 2016 9:30:14 PM
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To Mr Armchair Critic.

I remember the events prior to the 1967 Arab/Israeli war, when Egypt began hostilities by blockading the Israeli port of Eilat. In those days, the Arabs, who's arsenals were bulging with the very latest Soviet tanks and bombers, were openly bragging about how they were going to wipe Israel off the map. All of the military pundits in the media looked at the disparity in arms, and they all predicted an imminent Israeli defeat. Then as now, everybody knows what happens to enemies defeated by the Arabs. Everybody predicted mass murder of Israelis and mass rape.

The Muslim Arabs have ethnically cleansed every religious minority in the Middle East, especially Jews, and they are still doing it today. It is not just ISIS in Syria who are doing it, in every Arab country the Christians are trying to flee. The question begs, why do you support the world's greatest genocide artists when one of the victims turns the tables on them? Is it just because supporting "Palestinians" has become another trendy lefty cause, where they can display their usual contrary opinions to mainstream thinking? And just so that they can appear "different" from the common herd of people, who they claim to champion but whom they hold in contempt?

Just in case you have not noticed, the entire Arab and Muslim world appears to be heading towards Europe, or any other western country that has not been buggered up by Islam. Muslims want the prosperity of the west which their own culture denies them, while promoting in Europe the very Islamic values which made their own countries unliveable. Israel is a western country which is an unpleasant reminder to the mullahs of what a Middle Eastern country can achieve without Islam. The primary reason for Muslim hatred of Israel, is because the Muslims think that Islam can never retreat from the lands it has conquered.

But you can't see that because you are brain washed. You simply parrot the slogans that the educated Brahmin caste you aspire to join composes for you.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 1 May 2016 3:06:37 AM
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Thus may the pampered ones, snug and content in their lack of exposure to evil, sense the merest tingle of foreboding.
And, shrugging off such minor transient discomfort, make haste to re-assume the comfort of their assured disbelief and complacency.
Just so did Rome, Empire and Order crumble before a stealthy and entirely unscrupulous foe.

No-one may rest while evil lurks in parts we dare not enter, where we may not discern the source of our misgiving;
Yet is there place untouched, immune, beyond breach?
Not so whilst smiling face concealing ill intent may be milling in the mass of hurried unconcern.

Too late when bitten, and hearts are rent.
No undoing of futures foregone.
No balm and no recovery - from blind and foolish complacency.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 1 May 2016 5:37:48 AM
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What non-violent response can there be to the violence and hatred, the killings and the firing of rockets, the endlessly savage treatment of Gazans by Hamas, the thuggery of the indoctrination of Gazan children and the Hamas rants?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 2 May 2016 9:13:05 AM
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Hmmm written by an academic that is a member of a conflict resolution
organisation. I cannot see any resolution being possible in a session
with one so biased.
Get this message; THE ARABS ARE THE INVADERS !

The Assyrians were conquered by the Arabs and the story is told in the
genes of the Syrians. The mitochondrial DNA shows the Assyrian heritage
and the X chromosomes show the Arab genocidal invaders.

Does that not show you who are the invaders ?
Some historians believe that there are approximately 800 wars
recorded outside the middle east by Islamist Arab armies.
It is only a few hundred years since an Islamist army was defeated
by the Poles and Austrians at the gates of Vienna.

They have failed at every invasion of Europe except Albania and Spain.
They were finally kicked out of Spain after hundreds of years by
Queen Isabella. It was a surprise to me when I learnt that they had
invaded a significant part of Southern France.
They will now claim France is a moslem country because it was once occupied by moslems.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 4:51:00 PM
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