Happy to see this liberal government as a one term government. They need a bit more time in opposition thinking about how to run the country not how to win an election.

It would be great to see the nationals grow a pair and become a political party once again, rather then the liberals lap dog.

I get the feeling that The liberal party has a vision for Australian that most of us wouldn't like, and that's why they can't not articulate it very well.

Oh for a Tom Playford.

Deafeat for Turnbull and his Labor-like backers is well on the cards, and well deserved.

I don't know, maybe he is playing a long game. Perhaps he has a very cunning plan, a bit like Brer Rabbit, to lull the Labor party into etc., and then spring forward with devastating new policies, destroying Labor's chances with one powerful blow.

After all, he is always the smartest person in the room, isn't he :)

Baldrick

The LNP deserves nothing less than a complete wipeout at the polls.
Then they need to spend their time in opposition reversing the evil negativity and bile that rabbott brought to Australian politics.
If bipartisanship and co-operation are to return to political life, to replace the pointless politics of fear and muckracking, then it is the lieberals who have to take the first steps. After all it was the rightards who started all this gutter politics and hateful divisiveness. They should be the ones to change it.

Otherwise I support outright war on the right, via royal commissions and police investigations into their insider dealings, their collusion, their corruption, their lies and downright treason when it comes to their "wealth" hiding strategies.

Well, that's just one opinion or take!

All that prevents a Turnbull government being returned is inhouse infighting and internal whiteanting, by patently disloyal right wing control freaks, who don't seem to care if they destroy a once great party in the search for personal power? And they focus on his use of the party room and consensus to portray a man bereft of personal conviction?

And given the support in the right wing dominated media/opinion pieces, seem to be getting away with it?

For mine a few former ministers need to be sacked or just disendorsed and now, to shirt front home a message, stop with the whiteanting; and if you can't get on board with the program, get the hell off the ship!

We just don't need a repeat of the disastrous Gillard Campaign and the, "here to help" Kevin 07 and the leaks that created a hung parliament not able to get a mandate for its policies or program!

Abbott should just but out, or get another job and move on! His is not the sort of (former leader) "electoral help" a patently divided party needs at this critical time!

Albeit, Malcolm probably has far superior negotiating skills to that of his predecessor. And indeed some big ideas, some of the former ministers, were just too pea brained or timid to comprehend or implement?
Rhrosty.

The sooner we are rid of this bunch of incompetent,lying fools the better off we will be, they have nothing to offer at all and judging by the progress of the religious right in the Liberal party the Ayatollahs are not dead.
As for the Nationals they sold out to miners in fact any spiv who shoves a few dollars their way,if Joyce is the best they can come up with God help em,why any country people vote for them rather than Independents I have no idea

If we are going to destroy what is left of the Australian economy after Rudd & Gillard, with left policies we might as well have a proper Labor left government, rather than a neither/nor left government led by Turnbull.

Even Shorten is preferable, if the alternative is Turnbull. The sooner we get rid of him, & get through the minor catastrophe that Shorten & company will be, the sooner we might get back on track.

As a lifetime conservative, the thought we may be looking at another Labour government is frightening. However, another term for the LNP with Mr Malcolm TURNBULL at it's helm, is in reality a win for Labour albeit by default? To me, Mr TURNBULL epitomes treachery and dishonesty personified, so where on earth does someone like me go, what options does a true conservative have?

I agree with HASBEEN, but the thought of actually voting for a Labour candidate, purely to rid us all of Mr TURNBULL, and his 'Left' leaning proclivities, in hiding is positively sickening?

Shorten has been very lucky to be treated with kid gloves by the taxpayer-funded ABC. What about the CFMEU for starters? Then there is his history and of many of his crew with the previous failed Rudd and Galah'd governments.

It is crucial not to be led by the nose by the hidden persuaders to dwell on the party leader 'US Presidential style'(totally irrelevant to here) and second, to waste one'e vote on a protest. Cut off your nose to spite your face? How rational is that?

Be independent and not an automaton.

Use YOUR critical faculties and YOUR judgement to choose the best candidate for YOUR electorate and what YOU see as the best candidates for the Senate.

Australia definitely needs more civics taught in schools - in lieu of that Marxist 'safe schools'(sic) malarkey and the rest of the PC stuff.

As for the ABC, it should be cut enormously and told to get on with serving country folk rather than trying to influence and sledge governments that are not to its 'Progressive' taste. Didn't the ABC's own CEO finally admit that it is redundant to the SBS in much of its programming? What he didn't admit and obviously wouldn't, is that both the ABC and SBS are completely redundant giving advances in technology over the last twenty years and more.

Politics these days is like a bloody contest of second rate Gladiators, watched with Schadenfreude

(warped pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune)

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So what is the result of the Next Election? I reckon:

House of Reps: a marginal Coalition majority. So marginal that Abbott may have the numbers to unseat "failed" Turnbull in a spill late 2016/early 2017

Senate: even more interesting.
Labor + Greens may = Coalition + rightwing Independents (no PUP now).
BUT 1 to 3 Xenophon Team Senators may have the Balance of Power in the Senate.

Blackadder

:) good one

What to say about the electorate though?

It seems that so many have faith in 'magic bullets' rather than the hard work of thinking and working to progress (the original meaning of that word of course) their lives.

No new government is going to magically make their lives and the world better.

However with every new dawn all have most of their choices anew. Cripes, some could even take some responsibility for their own choices and break out of that rut of a lifetime.

Nah, it is easier to be a moral bullsh*^^er and slack, expecting others to put their shoulders to the wheel, while constantly blaming others for one's lack of success and unhappiness.

It's all the gubbermint's fault. Yeah right!

Left wing politics are increasingly on the nose to the electorate, by virtue of the fact that lefties have been getting their way for the last forty years, and have made a complete balls up of everything. Throughout the western world, multiculturalism has brought high crime rates, terrorism, and endemic welfare dependency to entire ethnicities of imported migrants. Every western society is now heavily in dept because of the western leftist politicians penchant for using borrowed money to buy votes.

Here in Australia, Abbott was seen as a success for stopping the boats, and for at least trying to curb increased government spending. This did not suit our still overwhelmingly leftist press, who stabbed Abbott in the back at every opportunity. Everything was tried, from Abbott's supposed "misogyny" to hints that he was screwing Peta Credlin on the sly. Spurious "opinion polls" claimed that Abbot had lost public support, and this frightened the wets in the Liberal Party.

These idiots decided to turn the Liberal Party back to the political centre, at a time when all western countries needed to lurch to the political right. Having a two party system with only a cigarette paper between their already failing policies was not going to achieve anything. This is why Turnbull is so hated. Liberal voting people are generally a lot smarter than Labor voting ones. They look further into the future than socialists. They know that a Labor victory will simply create more dept and a wave of boat people, but that this is a short term problem.

Labor will again bugger things up so bad if they win the next election, that you would have to be a complete loon not to vote Liberal the next time. So what the smart people in the Liberals know, is that they have to get the message out to the Liberal wets to turn the Liberal Party away from centrist policies and start doing a Margaret Thatcher.

That is why many Liberal voters think it would be better in the long term for Shorten to win the next election.

Forced to agree with Hasbeen (once again), however, Plantagenet has a most intriguing, interesting and attractive potential outcome, I like it :)

I think you people are focusing on the wrong things. Labor and liberal are just the two wings of the same bird of prey with you and I being the prey.

Both them conspired to frustrate the will and rights of the Australian people by locking out any potential opposition through the use of above and below the line voting.

Only about 4% of electors vote below the line. See how closely and cooperatively the two party system works together?

Among any other purpose for bringing this initiative in is to lock out all opposition, independents and micro parties specifically, and force the Australian people into a choice THEY give us.

See what they are doing to us?

This is where concentration of attention and effort needs to go to fix this situation if we the people are to regain any modicum of claim that we have govt of the people by the people.