Cotter, "family terrorist"

Erin Pizzey Speaks at the Domestic Violence 2014 Symposium in Toronto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnUwxxijr3g

and

The Emotional Terrorist by Erin Pizzey
http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-10.htm#prone

and

The Erin Pizzey Interview
http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-11.htm#interview

On-the-beach. focused on two words.

Prizzy identified Narcissism/personality disorder - without naming them. She identifies a Family Systems background, predating coercive, controlling violence (where Violence = the combination of all behaviours of control not just actual physical violence).

http://www.powerandcontrolfilm.com/the-topics/academics/evan-stark/ will give you a clue, and there's lots more.

Family Systems remains in child protection,Family Courts etc.

It's complicated to truly understand the machinations of behaviours, cause effect and impact on children and others. Start with the unrepresented position of victims in criminal matters, where a world of intrigue awaits.

Prizzy varies between 'children who grow up in bad environments may end up as family terrorists, mainly women - she's playing to her audience. like Ardnt. Many only look at violence by men, against women. I want people to stop taking sides,look to solutions, stop victim blaming. In dysfunction, people can be all three accuser, victim and perpetrator, and it changes over time.

Domestic and Family Violence isn't a lefty issue.

Here's a poor analogy - the best i can do.Think cancer. You know its out there, you hope you never get it, but by crikey you learn a whole challenging complex world if diagnosed. DV's out there for other people, not people like us who 'love each other, took vows, built a life'. DV's like cancer in that it sneaks up, you cant see it, you dont recognise it. When you do you hope it isnt too late, that interventions will work. Imagine if you go to the specialist and he says 'no, you are not a party to this - only the cancer is covered under 'the rule of law'. And so all those assumptions and expectations one has about all those services out there may be very different from reality. Sorry about the lousy analogy, but it really is far more complicated than one expects. The victims aren't the feminists - they are usually individuals, who have no idea how they got into the mess, why the perp is alternately loving kind and apologetic, then abusive. It does you head in -as it is supposed to.

I have always held the opinion that to solve a problem, first you must identify the causes, because until then we are throwing billions into treating the symptoms while ignoring the causes.

Yet another huge waste of tax payers dollars we simply no longer have.

What's the next avoidable problem we can waste our taxes on.

After reading "Cotter's" two posts, I have absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about, other than domestic violence exists, there appears to be no solution, and it is not a "lefty" issue.

Well Cotter, it is a lefty issue if lefties use increasing domestic violence as an excuse to demand more money, more buildings full of counsellors, social workers, and psychologists to supposedly combat it.

If domestic violence is rising, it is pertinent to ask why. Perpetrators can be male or female, but as with almost all perpetrators of physical violence, the most common offenders are male. An unknown proportion of males have controlling personalities which vary from mildly controlling to extremely controlling. Such men exude an aura of strength that some female personality types are attracted to.

Such male behaviour in western societies (depending upon degree of control) is generally considered to be socially repugnant. It is therefore the duty of our media to reinforce this message that violence towards spouses is unacceptable, as a way of mitigating this behaviour. News media does this but entertainment media generally does the opposite. Whereas entertainment media does not directly support domestic violence, it does overwhelmingly support the idea that real men are violent men. Reinforcing that concept in males who have mild controlling personalities will reinforce their belief that their behaviour is correct and socially acceptable.

That culture can mitigate or reinforce anti social behaviour is a fact. Muslim societies are breeding grounds for controlling male personalities because Islam is an extremely patriarchal culture which preaches and sanctifies male dominance of females. Unsurprisingly, Muslim suburbs in western countries are renowned for domestic violence, and violence towards females in general.

There is no "solution" domestic violence Cotter, but it can be mitigated.

First, demand that our entertainment media tone down the glorification of violent behaviour. Second, recognise that Islam has values, attitudes and behaviours diametrically opposed to western ones, and stop importing Muslims. Domestic violence in Islam is directly ordained and sanctioned by Mohammed. More Muslims means more domestic violence. And no amount of money is going to change that.

Lego, unsure re confusion. Reread? Research to fill in the blanks you don't get? Ask?

Those buildings full of counsellors can assist the victims, who often lose everything - looks, health, physical capacity, brain injuries, clothes, belongings, financial assets, children, family, home, job, then get beaten in the courts. Are you saying you think they dont deserve help to recover from the greatest con - that its safe to leave?

Murdered men,women and children, and those who kill leave behind an insurmountable legacy of pain and life impacts - financial, emotional, families torn apart, should those people be permitted to see counsellors? Is BEING a counsellor a leftie job then? Or is it who pays that worries you? Everyone's definition of words is subject to perception?

I take your point about religions being male dominated, woman-must-obey-man organisations - but while stop at Islam? All major churches are male run, house perpetrators and cover for them. Indeed God himself is generally depicted as a male, atrocities are frequently committed in His name. Modern media is certainly helping our young to believe negotiation is best done by the more powerful but the idea has always been 'some violence is excusable' and many believe DV falls into that category.

Is it 'leftie' to say to the megabucks media industry must be controlled? The porn industry? Child sexual exploitation? Banks? Politicians? Courts? How's that working for you? Are you a Rightie'

The conversation might improve if people stepped of of their entrenched soapboxes of wisdom. If people didn't know what they were getting into, then couldn't get out, how does blaming them help? Once they left, most don't find freedom, more purgatory, blame, criticism, lousy laws, negative outcomes. If lucky, a damned good service/counsellor can help them work through, learn and never make the same mistake again. Now, perhaps if we tattoo a danger sign on perps heads....

Great to judge if you've never been there. Great to stay stuck in a singular mindset if your story is the only one that counts. Life is nothing if not a learning experience.

To Mr Cotter.

I am a homophobic, Islamophobic, Human Induced Climate Change denying, racist redneck. And I am proud of that.

The point of Brendan's article was the predictable way in which leftist social workers always scream for more taxpayer money to solve every social ill. Not that they are any good at doing so. Buggin's Law of Social workers states that, "Social problems increase in direct proportion to the numbers of social workers employed to solve them." I sometimes wonder if multiculturalism was specifically designed by the public service to create as many social problems as possible, in order to create job opportunities and empire building in the public service. You know, the more Gypsies, Lebanese, Muslims, Pacific Islanders and black Africans allowed to immigrate to Australia, the more police, public defenders, lawyers, prison officers, security guards, parole officers, ASIO officers, SWAT teams, social workers, and welfare dispensers are needed.

Lefties are renowned for supporting fashionable causes, Refugees, Republics, Reconciliation, as well as anti racism. But they really get worked up over any proposal to censor the entertainment media. Australia once had strict censorship of the media, almost non existent firearm laws, a racially homogenous population, and very low crime rates. Today we have almost no censorship of the media, very strict firearm laws, multiculturalism, and a violent crime rate that our grandparents would never have thought possible. Think their might be some connections there?

I stopped at Islam because Islam is the worst religion for sanctioning male violence towards women by a very large margin. No other religion sanctifies wife beating as a religious instruction. No other religion blames women for being raped, or punishes women for being raped. With the examples of Cologne, Rotherham, Sweden, and Syria as glaring examples, every feminist in the western world should be screaming that Muslims should not be allowed to immigrate to western countries. But no, what the Left Sisterhood wants is for the taxpayer to pay to solve the predictable and avoidable social problems which they and their comrades habitually create.