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Could the Greens be the sensible choice? : Comments

By Syd Hickman, published 6/4/2016

Given that the ALP spivs are safely aboard the gravy train they will not be exerting themselves to derail it. Peter Walsh, the best Finance Minister we ever had, would be horrified.

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The trouble with the Greens is that they never discuss high immigration, like all the other major parties. Only the Sustainable Party has a clear policy on reducng immigration.
Posted by Outrider, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 8:55:49 AM
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Syd Hayman: Could the Greens be the sensible choice?

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! He's got to be kidding eh.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 9:06:40 AM
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The Irish had the right idea, when they created the celtic economic miracle via the simple expediency of investing in their own folks and their better ideas, then went into self destruct mode by throwing open the domestic housing market to foreign debt laden speculation.[And doesn't that have a familiar ring?

German voters trusted the Greens with the unfettered access, as the first and only green government, to the levers of Europe's strongest economy and watched as it was almost destroyed!

Their activities have already shut down much of the commercial aspects and promise of the Great barrier Reef and created conditions in our native forests, that had no other possible result, than a hugely destructive fire storm!

SENSIBLE CHOICE!?

Simply put, the Great Barrier Reef is a submerged mountain range topped with numerous coral reef systems and is not as portrayed, a single reef system that is so large it can be seen from outer space.

Look, the Great dividing range a is similar mountain range that can also be seen from outer space; and ditto the manmade Great wall of china.

The fact the "reef" can actually be seen form outer space, as a merged conglomerate of multiple reefs, may indicate how vast its potential(Locked away) resources could be?

Yes, borrow or use the printing presses to create more paper, just not the way a lunatic lead Zimbabwe did! (The Green economic plan?)

But rather use it to build stuff that will still be earning a handsome and growing return when this commenter's grandkids are pushing up the daisies; and includes visionary projects like an inland canal, very fast trains plying our eastern seaboard and the long delayed range crossing in southern inland Q'ld.

In other words just get on with as much income earning big idea projects, (an absolute must)commercial development as we can!

And if we must borrow, use hugely popular elsewhere, but as yet untried here, self terminating, 30 year, government guaranteed, development bonds that could raise all the development capital we need; and without ever surrendering control or our economic sovereignty!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 9:42:25 AM
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Ridiculous! The Greens are total idiots.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 10:07:54 AM
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The greens have never been anything more than a party of protest and, as another poster has pointed out, have never shown themselves to be sensible, or even sane.

As for the writer's discussion of school funding, what he carefully neglects to mention is that the private school parents are paying $30,000 a year for a service they would be entitled to get for free. So if the government money spent on those private schools went into public schools, along with the students, and the parents saved their $30,000 would the public system be better or worse off?

After he does his sums, Mr Hickman may find out that just why no one is saying anything.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 10:19:22 AM
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The Greens policy on government assistance to private schools can be shown to be totally ideological, and unrelated to the practical business of Government. This is, of course, to be expected from a minor party that has no fear that it would be required to actually implement the policies.

The problem is to secure the education of the nation's children; the sensible approach is to have the children properly educated at the least cost to the taxpayer. This would leave funds otherwise spent on education to be used on items such as health, defence or tax cuts.

This of course presumes that taxation is regarded as a necessary evil that should be levied as sparingly as possible. If you believe that taxation is good in itself, and that wasting vast sums of money is good even if it only drags down the wealthy, you would not agree.

The latest figures that I have been able to obtain from the Parliamentary Library are for the 2007/08 financial year and give the following figures for the total spent per student by all governments on education:

Spent per student in private schools: $6,607

Spent per student in government schools: $12,639

The obvious conclusion is that it pays government for students to be educated in private schools.

Much is made of the better facilities in private schools. However these facilities have been paid for by parents out of their after tax income. So What? Aren't they free to choose? Or is it that the lefties want a monopoly of access to the minds of the young?
Posted by plerdsus, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 10:40:54 AM
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Nice piece Syd

I says a lot when life and rationality draws one to entertain your headline.

Just imagine what a wonderful nation we could have if we were able to take rational opportunities and reverse the spivs' atrocities. Of the latter you will recall that your minister Beazley rejected departmental and military advice on submarines in the 1980s (that four vessels, off-the-shelf are adequate) and instead imposed a productivity blight which grows daily, on a pork base with Mountbatten fantasy seasoning . But that pales against the blight of the ACTU's superannuation.

Looking forward to you expanding your horizons in future pieces.
Posted by asho, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 11:17:03 AM
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Rhosty: the long delayed range crossing in southern inland Q'ld.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
Yep! Every Party in every Government for the last 80 years has been prosing to build that one. No-one has put a shovel near it except to bury a couple of young girls.

Plerdsus: The Greens policy on government assistance to private schools can be shown to be totally ideological, and unrelated to the practical business of Government.

Yes, I could never work out what siting on a mat in the corner, smoking a joint & singing Kumbyah had to do with teaching kids.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 11:44:37 AM
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You obviously never taught any Math Syd, or perhaps you did, & that explains the complete lack of math in today's kids.

It might also explain some of the spendthrift policies of some opposition leaders. No one with any math could possibly suggest the Greens as a viable alternative to anything, except chaos & failure.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 3:22:03 PM
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Syd Hickman is another author of articles I will ignore.

Talk about giving the keys of the asylum to the inmates.

Major greens policies. Lower the age of consent and make all drugs legal, for defense, train population in passive resistance.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 4:01:15 PM
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The Greens....

Green on the outside

Red on the inside

AKA... The Watermelon Party.
Posted by Aspley, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 5:22:41 PM
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What a huge gubba of an article.

And to think Greens Senators and MPs more than represent LGBTIQQ* justice for all:

1. Which will not become compulsory during the first 3 months of a Rainbow Coalition, or

2. Be offered in SCHOOLS (straight away).

* "Stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, Intersex, Queer, otherwise diverse in their sexuality and/or gender (including asexual, pansexual, demisexual, polysexual, polyamorous, sapiosexual, aromantic, agender and more) or Questioning their sexuality, and/or gender. Also, LGBT, GLBT, GLB, LGB, GLBTI, LGBTIQQ, LGBTQIA (A is for Asexual) or LGBTI are used"

Word Curious? see http://www.freedom.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=127:dsg&catid=81&Itemid=181
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 5:58:38 PM
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"Sensible economic policies" and 'the Greens" is a contradiction in terms, Syd Hickman.

As history has shown, the very best way for any country to realise the stupidity of leftist economics, is for the lefties to win an election and get hold of the reins of power. it is alright always opposing everything that makes a buck when you are in opposition and know that you can never be elected. It is another thing when you actually become the government, and figure out that it is now your people's prosperity and happiness are now your responsibility.

In Cuba, the most popular street graffiti slogan is, "Better exploited under Batista than starving under Castro."
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 7 April 2016 4:15:47 AM
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Terms like "Sensible Greens economic policies" are not only contradictions in terms, but the punchlines in bad jokes.

Similar terms include "wooden welding rods" and "Rocking horse dung"
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 9 April 2016 7:45:58 AM
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The Greens depend on gaining seats in parliament by
The huge ethnic vote, especially in Melbourne
therefore you never hear the Greens come out as being against stopping the boats,
Don't want to offend all that big ethnic voting base, who vote for the greens because
The greens always come out in support of open borders.

Also the Greens will have to support the funding of private schools,
because they cannot offend their big Muslim voter base, who like to send their kids
To private Muslim schools.

When it was realised that communism was a failed system, the communist
hippy generation just changed the name of the communist horse to the Greens horse.
Same horse different name.
Think of the hippy mantra, the world should all hold hands and share the environment
wisely.

That translates to the communist idea, of down with capitalism, we will force everyone
down to an equal level by sharing under a communist ,I mean green world government.
And the world and environment will be saved.
The communist revolutionaries promised the peasants the same thing.

The communist party continued to live like rich capitalists while the peasants suffered.
A Green world government would do the same thing.
Notice the Greens like to shut down everyone else's jobs, and preach about the environment, while they still sit over there with all their luxuries and stuff.
The greens never pay for their noble sounding ideas, someone else always has to.
Posted by CHERFUL, Saturday, 9 April 2016 4:58:18 PM
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