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The shrinking Malcolm Turnbull : Comments

By Syd Hickman, published 11/3/2016

Perhaps Turnbull's biggest failure is his apparent belief in his own propaganda.

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Cobber, I don't mind criticism, but I'd prefer it was literate:

"Clearly your..." doesn't inspire confidence in your abilities when you obviously meant "clearly you're..."

But let's get to the detail. These are matters of the historical record:

The Howard government left a substantial surplus.
The Rudd and then Gillard governments left a massive deficit.

The expenditures under Rudd, particularly, were hysterical and were in no way a remedy for the global financial crisis, as you imply. If you disagree with that, please tell us how the pink batts disaster, the over-the-top school buildings waste, stimulus cheques to dead people and foreigners, green loans, the squandered millions on wind and solar power generation and open borders welcoming 50,000 illegals we are still paying for contributed in any way to recovery from the GFC.

No, on second thoughts, don't waste our time. Selling coal and iron to China took care of the GFC. And the Rudd government tried to kill the mining industry.

As for Turnbull, well, we're yet to see anything beyond waffle from him, but feel free to hold your breath.
Posted by calwest, Friday, 11 March 2016 4:58:24 PM
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If Turnbull believes his own propaganda, he's outclassed by Gillard...Nah, she couldn't really believe it. Could she?

This from MPSF, the agency which manages speaking engagements for the Clintons and Julia Gillard:

Via michaelsmithnews.com

And who wouldn't get along to hear from this SuperWoman.
According to the notes, Ms Gillard
•built a national broadband network
•was central to the successful management of Australia during the Global Financial Crisis
•positioned Australia to seize the benefits of Asia’s rise
•reformed Australian education at every level
•created an emissions trading scheme,
•improved the sustainability of health care, aged care and dental care
•inaugurated Australia's first ever national program caring for people with disabilities; and,
•she also restructured the telecommunications sector

She leaves Turnbull in the shade.
Posted by calwest, Saturday, 12 March 2016 2:12:04 PM
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Malcolm was stabbed in the back b Mr Abbott. Then Mr Abbott promised the earth to win the election with a little help from his friends, Friends like a leaky Rudd? And given the record, I can't see any reason for a similarly removed Abbott to complain?

If these two men Rudd and Abbott have just one thing in common, it is the abuse of power via entirely inappropriate delegation of authority?

As for Cal West's complaint, all those things he bags Gillard on, were started or put in train during her term in parliament?

For mine her only real mistake was her disastrous and entirely unnecessary alliance with the jobs destroying greens then allowing the tail to wag the dog so to speak!

That said, I go on the public record as having never voted for labor in the last 35 years! Any tenuous support, nipped in the bud by Treasurer Keating and the recession we had to have?

Even so, and given the hostile environment and due credit, the sheer amount of legislation actually passed by a Gillard led Labor Government, during a so called hung parliament, was nothing short of remarkable.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 13 March 2016 10:26:52 AM
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No, Rhrosty,

Don't try to rewrite history. Abbott rolled Turnbull because he (Turnbull) tried to reshape the Liberal Party into a Green-Left progressivist party. And that was against the background of massive opposition from within the Liberal Party and the broader public to what Turnbull was trying to do on a number of fronts, "climate change" being the most prominent. Indeed, Abbott was a reluctant challenger; he said at the time he would not have challenged if Joe Hockey had. And Abbott pulled the Liberals out of the ditch Turnbull had put it in.

Abbott was rolled because a bunch of nobody backbenchers conspired with Turnbull - they were stupid enough to think a Shorten opposition might win the next election and they'd lose their seats. Talk about no ticker.

Turnbull is now moving again to form a Green-Left progressivist party, with the assistance of Greens preferences.

Many of the things Gillard now claims as her own were in fact begun and completed during Rudd's term: the GFC, NBN (well, completed may not be the appropriate word, but Gillard had nothing to do with it) and so on. She was there, but far from "central" to most of the items in the list, her wrecking of the education system and her NDIS time bomb being the exceptions.

As for getting a lot of legislation passed in a hung parliament - well, it was hardly a hung parliament at all once she was in a formal alliance with the Greens and Oakeshott, Katter and Windsor had promised to support her.

Some people have very short memories.
Posted by calwest, Sunday, 13 March 2016 12:31:24 PM
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lol. Abbott didn't roll Turnbull on his own; the Liberal conservatives did, and there was an expectation Hockey was going to be their front-man, unless Abbott throwing his hat into the ring at the last minute was a combined conservative strategy.

Rudd contributed to Turnbull's demise by repeatedly teasing Turnbull for taking a bipartisan approach in continuing the ETS support that Howard had initiated. That was the straw that broke the LNPs market-mechanism approach (shows them as pseudo-capitalists or mining-socialists). Thus Rudd contributed to his own demise, too.
Posted by McReal, Sunday, 13 March 2016 2:19:24 PM
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